[timeofseasons]

Originally Posted by KellyBundy

Half of university grads flee Michigan | detnews.com | The Detroit News

This article from the Detroit News talks about the growing problem of outmigration of college graduates. I myself am a college grad born and bred in Michigan (graduated from a post-grad certification program in June). I plan to move this December. What are your thoughts?

Not surprise at all. I'am a current senior in high school, and if I attend college in Michigan, I plan to leave after I graduate. Have only been miserable in the city I currently live in.

[I_Want_Snow]

Originally Posted by michsnowlvr

Im sure it hasnt been mentioned anywhere on this board, but MI added 38,100 jobs in July, 2nd only to the state of NY.

We need more posts like this!! Everyone knows how bad things are in MI... We don't have to be reminded on a daily basis!!

Things will get better, it's just going to take some time. The grass isn't always greener on the other side. I live in ATL and make more money than I ever have in my life, but it is so true that MONEY can't buy happiness!! I am more miserable living here then any other place I have lived, which is why I am saving up to come back home!

GO BLUE!!

[MittenDweller82]

Originally Posted by michsnowlvr

I cant tell you how many stories Ive heard that are similar! Let those leave who want to leave. Im a university grad and I love MI, love to vacation and see other places but cant wait to get back home. MI is and always will be my home.

Im sure it hasnt been mentioned anywhere on this board, but MI added 38,100 jobs in July, 2nd only to the state of NY.

Care to share where you extracted that statistic? It seems that the Detroit Free Press would have that bolstered in 120 point font on the front page, not to mention it being plastered across every TV in Michigan on the news...thats an incredible amount of growth.

I'm disappointed to see the attitude displayed in this thread, Michigan desperately needs talented grads to stay here, spend here, and buy homes here..none which can be done by relocating. I was one of the grads who left reluctantly, and yes, sometimes I feel "homesick" although I was much sicker financially in Michigan. But, I'm not alone, I'm amazed at all of the Michigander's who are my neighbors and co-workers, people simply attempting to do the best at life as possible. Its easy to have the "go ahead and leave" mentality until your put in a sink or swim position, not to mention virtually every influential public figure in Michigan preaches the dire need to keep our grads. Not every grad that leaves has a choice, perhaps people should consider that rather than branding them as part of the problem. Michigan desperately needs talent to create new ideas for its future.

[Bydand]

Originally Posted by MittenDweller82

Care to share where you extracted that statistic? It seems that the Detroit Free Press would have that bolstered in 120 point font on the front page, not to mention it being plastered across every TV in Michigan on the news...thats an incredible amount of growth.

Michigan Labor Market Information, Mi Fast Facts, HOME

Jobs gained in July = 38,000, which is still WAY down from the number of jobs a year ago (about 281,000 less), but is a good start in bringing them back slowly.

[northstar22]

Originally Posted by michsnowlvr

I cant tell you how many stories Ive heard that are similar! Let those leave who want to leave. Im a university grad and I love MI, love to vacation and see other places but cant wait to get back home. MI is and always will be my home.

Im sure it hasnt been mentioned anywhere on this board, but MI added 38,100 jobs in July, 2nd only to the state of NY.

I totally agree. MI will always be home to me as well!

[magellan]

Originally Posted by KellyBundy

Half of university grads flee Michigan | detnews.com | The Detroit News

This article from the Detroit News talks about the growing problem of outmigration of college graduates. I myself am a college grad born and bred in Michigan (graduated from a post-grad certification program in June). I plan to move this December. What are your thoughts?

West Michigan retains 80%+ of GVSU graduates. The only thing I can suggest is broaden your reading material (?)

[northstar22]

Originally Posted by MittenDweller82

Care to share where you extracted that statistic? It seems that the Detroit Free Press would have that bolstered in 120 point font on the front page, not to mention it being plastered across every TV in Michigan on the news...thats an incredible amount of growth.

I'm disappointed to see the attitude displayed in this thread, Michigan desperately needs talented grads to stay here, spend here, and buy homes here..none which can be done by relocating. I was one of the grads who left reluctantly, and yes, sometimes I feel "homesick" although I was much sicker financially in Michigan. But, I'm not alone, I'm amazed at all of the Michigander's who are my neighbors and co-workers, people simply attempting to do the best at life as possible. Its easy to have the "go ahead and leave" mentality until your put in a sink or swim position, not to mention virtually every influential public figure in Michigan preaches the dire need to keep our grads. Not every grad that leaves has a choice, perhaps people should consider that rather than branding them as part of the problem. Michigan desperately needs talent to create new ideas for its future.

As a broke, underemployed new grad, creating new ideas is easier said than done. I would LOVE to spend time coming up with a business plan, fundraising, and putting it into action. Unfortunately I can't afford to do so. I have bills that need to be paid yesterday, and I can't afford the time between starting a business and actually making a return on it. I need that weekly paycheck right now. I imagine most new grads are in the same position, unless they have saved up money for years or they have rich parents.

[Giesela]

Flee? Really? Sounds sensasionlistic.
The entire midwest has been facing this for a long time. Its not only related to the economy. Young people tend to like bright lights, excitment, other young people.
What, something like 75% of the population lives within 100 miles of the coast - young people go try their wings, jump start their careers etc. in bigger cities.

There are several posts of people asking for info because they are relocating here from out of state - why Michigan grads aren't getting/taking those jobs I'm not sure but it could be because they want to leave not because they have to leave.

[magellan]

Originally Posted by Giesela

Flee? Really? Sounds sensasionlistic.
The entire midwest has been facing this for a long time. Its not only related to the economy. Young people tend to like bright lights, excitment, other young people.
What, something like 75% of the population lives within 100 miles of the coast - young people go try their wings, jump start their careers etc. in bigger cities.

There are several posts of people asking for info because they are relocating here from out of state - why Michigan grads aren't getting/taking those jobs I'm not sure but it could be because they want to leave not because they have to leave.

As someone who occasionally hires people, I don't hire recent college grads. They tend to have too high of expectations and somewhat of an entitlement mentality. Starving for a few years builds a better work ethic.

[MittenDweller82]

Originally Posted by Giesela

Flee? Really? Sounds sensasionlistic.
The entire midwest has been facing this for a long time. Its not only related to the economy. Young people tend to like bright lights, excitment, other young people.
What, something like 75% of the population lives within 100 miles of the coast - young people go try their wings, jump start their careers etc. in bigger cities.

There are several posts of people asking for info because they are relocating here from out of state - why Michigan grads aren't getting/taking those jobs I'm not sure but it could be because they want to leave not because they have to leave.

Your last paragraph poses a big question, and its also part of the problem. If you have done any following of these forums, when the topic of "college grads" or "new grads" comes along there will be almost instant negative stereoptyical shallowness. "Entitlement, stuck up, expecting the world..don't hire new grads" are common spew. Another deterrent that makes leaving very lucrative for a new grad is the massive amount of displaced middle aged workers who will undoubtedly get first consideration for a position.

Those older workers are much more likely to be retired in areas of the country where cyclic and chronic job loss didn't occur, leaving many openings for younger grads to fill. If you do even quick research on the bls.gov or census.gov websites you will find the brain drain states have almost carbon copy economies and industries. Regardless of the circumstances it comes back to finding happiness, if your happy earning 8.50 hourly then great, if an opportunity presents itself elsewhere why wait?