where NOT to move in milwaukee if you're white non-gangster american? (West Allis: landlords, gated)

[John241]

Originally Posted by Jesse276

Isn't that kind of the definition of a "bad" area? Besides, what business do you have walking around "bad" areas anyway, I sure would like to see some open-carry protests happen there, rather than some suburban Culvers.

I just see so many posts saying things to the effect of "I'd walk around that neighborhood and feel comfortable....you just can't look scared". That just seems so sugarcoated and seems like an opinion that isn't being elaborated upon.

I'd prefer if people would say "You should just try and stay out of XXX neighborhood. Your probability of getting mugged is pretty high if you don't live there."

I know sometimes the truth hurts, but when we know there are bad neighborhoods with high crime rates and then people claim they would have no problem walking through them, it leaves questions unanswered to those not familiar with the area.

[nidex]

Originally Posted by John241

So in other words you may get mugged or jumped for walking through a rough neighborhood even if you're minding your own business. I'm not sure why people have a hard time openly saying this, I had a feeling it rings true in "bad" areas....

It's a possibility, yes. I have no problem saying that there's a greater chance of getting robbed if you're wandering around a bad neighborhood with a confused demeanor. But the point is, as long as you don't make yourself look like an easy target, and carry yourself like you belong there and know what you're doing, the chances of being a victim are greatly decreased.

[lindseh]

Originally Posted by John241

That makes sense, I'm guessing the way you dress or the car you drive may have an effect on getting more attention than usual.

So in other words you may get mugged or jumped for walking through a rough neighborhood even if you're minding your own business. I'm not sure why people have a hard time openly saying this, I had a feeling it rings true in "bad" areas....

Crime can happen to you in any neighborhood at any time of day to any person. I remember hearing about a girl who was pulled off her bike and raped in the middle of the afternoon on the bike trail years ago. I'm a white girl and I live near 27th and Wisconsin with no troubles and I'm also not in the least bit physically intimidating. I was once threatened with violence on 27th and Layton. I've been on N 2nd and Keefe by myself at dusk and at most was asked by concerned residents of the neighborhood if I was lost, young black men, mind you who were very gentlemanly to me. To say bad things only happen to you if you do something to deserve it is victim blaming, and not what anyone is saying. But there are precautions you can take.

I grew up in this city and I love it. I've had good things happen to me, and bad things happen to me, all over this city and there has been no consistency between the "good" neighborhoods and the "bad" neighborhoods. There are places I wouldn't live, yes, but I just don't understand people having such fear of this city.

Side note- I was canvassing in the Southridge area, and my sides partner (you work opposite sides of the street) was this sweet 18 year old black girl. The cops got called on her, but not on me (the entire time I canvassed actually the cops had never been called on a white person...). They decided that she "fit the description" of someone who had committed a crime in another suburb, frisked her and took her down to the police station. I refused to let them take her alone, and there were two squad cars so they took me in one and her in the other. They never frisked me. She was crying, like the entire time. They fingerprinted her, and of course she came up with no record. I bought her ice cream.

[LexusNexus]

Originally Posted by lindseh

Crime can happen to you in any neighborhood at any time of day to any person. I remember hearing about a girl who was pulled off her bike and raped in the middle of the afternoon on the bike trail years ago. I'm a white girl and I live near 27th and Wisconsin with no troubles and I'm also not in the least bit physically intimidating. I was once threatened with violence on 27th and Layton. I've been on N 2nd and Keefe by myself at dusk and at most was asked by concerned residents of the neighborhood if I was lost, young black men, mind you who were very gentlemanly to me. To say bad things only happen to you if you do something to deserve it is victim blaming, and not what anyone is saying. But there are precautions you can take.

I grew up in this city and I love it. I've had good things happen to me, and bad things happen to me, all over this city and there has been no consistency between the "good" neighborhoods and the "bad" neighborhoods. There are places I wouldn't live, yes, but I just don't understand people having such fear of this city.

Side note- I was canvassing in the Southridge area, and my sides partner (you work opposite sides of the street) was this sweet 18 year old black girl. The cops got called on her, but not on me (the entire time I canvassed actually the cops had never been called on a white person...). They decided that she "fit the description" of someone who had committed a crime in another suburb, frisked her and took her down to the police station. I refused to let them take her alone, and there were two squad cars so they took me in one and her in the other. They never frisked me. She was crying, like the entire time. They fingerprinted her, and of course she came up with no record. I bought her ice cream.

Excellent post. Milwaukee, the state of Wisconsin, and the entire country needs more people like you. You are part of the solution, not part of the problem.

[robertjohnson]

Originally Posted by shanerady

basically im white and afraid the ghetto, I want to know where the hell to stay away from as far at neighborhoods and towns, of Milwaukee. i called a few landlords trying to set up scheduled showings of apt/duplexes, and one lady simply said that she could not rent this house to me cause i seemed TOO white, as it was in a bad neighborhood. The job promotion will be near southridge mall. is GREENDALE a good place to live? how bout parts of the city of Milwaukee? we would like to be near bus lines and near nightlife... if you can help me it'd be greatly appreciated. I am scheduled to start work on the 7th, but would love to move in mid NOV. thanks and good luck.

Trust me on this. I have researched those bad neighborhoods you mention. Blacks can't live in those areas without trouble that goes 2X for you normal yt guy. Go to ZIPSKINNY.com for demographic data. Find an 80% white/asian area with average income with 65%> married homeowners. If you want to take it a step further cross check your zip picks with FBI crime data stats for the same areas. Zipcode data can save your life. AND find a comfortable neighborhood with decent folks you can live with! Good luck.

[SouthXSW]

Originally Posted by John241

I was wondering if you could elaborate on this comment?

What happens if I walk through there looking "scared"?

I'm being serious...only asking because I hear statements like this a lot about rough neighborhoods. I generally stay away from rough neighborhoods so I'd like some more input on what people really mean when they say this. Thanks.

There is no reason to even go in rough neighborhoods unless you live there or know someone there. My best advice is avoid them.

[nidex]

Originally Posted by SouthXSW

There is no reason to even go in rough neighborhoods unless you live there or know someone there. My best advice is avoid them.

If you drive from one end of the city to another, there's really no way to avoid passing through bad neighborhoods, unless you use the expressway. Granted there is far, far, far less of a chance of running into a bad situation if you are driving. However if you're using public transit, the chance increases. There are also many services, stores and such in bad neighborhoods that you may need to go to. It all comes down to how you carry yourself. Don't be naive (use your street smarts) and walk into a problem, don't flash money or valuables if you're traveling through a bad neighborhood, don't be afraid, and you will be fine.

[John241]

Originally Posted by SouthXSW

There is no reason to even go in rough neighborhoods unless you live there or know someone there. My best advice is avoid them.

Originally Posted by nidex

If you drive from one end of the city to another, there's really no way to avoid passing through bad neighborhoods, unless you use the expressway. Granted there is far, far, far less of a chance of running into a bad situation if you are driving. However if you're using public transit, the chance increases. There are also many services, stores and such in bad neighborhoods that you may need to go to. It all comes down to how you carry yourself. Don't be naive (use your street smarts) and walk into a problem, don't flash money or valuables if you're traveling through a bad neighborhood, don't be afraid, and you will be fine.

I appreciate the honesty. Thanks for your posts!

[green_mariner]

Originally Posted by robertjohnson

Trust me on this. I have researched those bad neighborhoods you mention. Blacks can't live in those areas without trouble that goes 2X for you normal yt guy. Go to ZIPSKINNY.com for demographic data. Find an 80% white/asian area with average income with 65%> married homeowners. If you want to take it a step further cross check your zip picks with FBI crime data stats for the same areas. Zipcode data can save your life. AND find a comfortable neighborhood with decent folks you can live with! Good luck.

Then where can Black people live without having trouble?

[HagbardCeline]

Funny you say asian, because there are a lot of pretty violent asian gangs all over the state, you ****ing moron.