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Rust belt voters were harassed during the last general election swung the tide Obama's way and re balanced the country for four more years. I challenge you to come up with specific examples how Democrats were the sole contributors to Motor City's demise. Anything less will render your board credit zero. I'll counter with facts surrounding the city's downfall while you put down your right wings long enough to come with a plausible answer or be a failure.
Actually, your extreme partisanship renders your plausibility less than negligible, if not nonexistent. A bit of balance goes a long way.
Rust belt voters were harassed during the last general election swung the tide Obama's way and re balanced the country for four more years. I challenge you to come up with specific examples how Democrats were the sole contributors to Motor City's demise. Anything less will render your board credit zero. I'll counter with facts surrounding the city's downfall while you put down your right wings long enough to come with a plausible answer or be a failure.
You can stick your challenge in your ear. And I couldn't care less about your opinion of my credibility. I have long since learned that lefties live in a fantasy land that is completely disconnected from reality and hence your credibility was nonexistent for me in the first place.
Go wave your ideology at someone that finds decades of failure attractive.
The aging population as the Baby Boomers are retiring is a *small* part of the lower labor participation rate. The real reason is that businesses are sitting on cash rather than expanding as they are trying to ride out the reign of socialist Democrats. Obama and the Democrats are heavily anti-capitalist, as evidenced by their actions over the past 4+ years. Obamacare and the unelected EPA are major drivers as businesses are hoarding cash to pay penalties from Obama telling certain industries that "we will bankrupt you" as well as the massive cost increases/penalties from Obamacare. That leads to lower employment as companies keep paring off all but the absolute most essential employees and divisions in order to preserve their margins and reduce their fine cross-section. The 50 employee/30 hour limit in Obamacare is a big factor here if you look at the latest job numbers. Twice as many people were involuntarily forced from full time to part time jobs than "new" jobs were created. We have about as many people employed today as we did in the early 1980s...when we had FAR fewer people in the country.
So in summary, there was a small recession in 2005-2006 when the housing market bubble burst, which was really due being massively bid-up due to cheap government-persuaded loans being offered. That bubble would have been a little dip in the road except we had Obama get elected. He did the same crap F***ing Dumb*ss Roosevelt did and lo and behold we had the same outcome- a prolonged depression. Ditto with the Supreme Court shredding the Constitution- the "Switch in Time that Saved Nine" was an embarrassment just as was "Obamacare is a tax on a lack of activity." At least FDR's lifetime reign of ruin led us to have term limits and Obama has to go in 2016. Hopefully saner minds will prevail and we'll start the slow process of pulling out of Obama's disastrous reign with a series of conservative adults in office cleaning up the mess the infantile Democrats left behind. I am hoping that will happen, otherwise we'll simply get to the same point later and with much more misery in between. I am floored that the supposedly pro-scientific liberals are willing to completely ignore the evidence of literally the entire field of psychology and economics during about the past 90 years. Keynes was wrong, Marx was wrong, and Pavlov was right. Give people free stuff and they won't work. Tax income and people won't work. You can't borrow your way out of debt. Disarming people will embolden criminals, including the government. It's that simple but they can't get out of the way of their own corruption to see it.
The aging population as the Baby Boomers are retiring is a *small* part of the lower labor participation rate. The real reason is that businesses are sitting on cash rather than expanding as they are trying to ride out the reign of socialist Democrats. Obama and the Democrats are heavily anti-capitalist, as evidenced by their actions over the past 4+ years. Obamacare and the unelected EPA are major drivers as businesses are hoarding cash to pay penalties from Obama telling certain industries that "we will bankrupt you" as well as the massive cost increases/penalties from Obamacare. That leads to lower employment as companies keep paring off all but the absolute most essential employees and divisions in order to preserve their margins and reduce their fine cross-section. The 50 employee/30 hour limit in Obamacare is a big factor here if you look at the latest job numbers. Twice as many people were involuntarily forced from full time to part time jobs than "new" jobs were created. We have about as many people employed today as we did in the early 1980s...when we had FAR fewer people in the country.
So in summary, there was a small recession in 2005-2006 when the housing market bubble burst, which was really due being massively bid-up due to cheap government-persuaded loans being offered. That bubble would have been a little dip in the road except we had Obama get elected. He did the same crap F***ing Dumb*ss Roosevelt did and lo and behold we had the same outcome- a prolonged depression. Ditto with the Supreme Court shredding the Constitution- the "Switch in Time that Saved Nine" was an embarrassment just as was "Obamacare is a tax on a lack of activity." At least FDR's lifetime reign of ruin led us to have term limits and Obama has to go in 2016. Hopefully saner minds will prevail and we'll start the slow process of pulling out of Obama's disastrous reign with a series of conservative adults in office cleaning up the mess the infantile Democrats left behind. I am hoping that will happen, otherwise we'll simply get to the same point later and with much more misery in between. I am floored that the supposedly pro-scientific liberals are willing to completely ignore the evidence of literally the entire field of psychology and economics during about the past 90 years. Keynes was wrong, Marx was wrong, and Pavlov was right. Give people free stuff and they won't work. Tax income and people won't work. You can't borrow your way out of debt. Disarming people will embolden criminals, including the government. It's that simple but they can't get out of the way of their own corruption to see it.
Best post in this thread, but the lemmings don't want to admit it.
I'd wager 10-1 you're gonna be audited by the IRS thugs now and the NSA will have you on the No-Fly list.
So much for this "transparent" farce of an administration.
I disagree with the whole socialists destroying the economy talk.. sky high health care costs are destroying the economy, but the way to help with that would actually be to go all the way and do universal health care, while capping the sky high cost of health care and prescription drugs. It really is insane what insurance costs the average person, and what hospital care costs even those who are insured... compare the cost of something like an Angiogram done in the US versus other countries. I do not like Obamacare, it doesn't address the out of control cost of basic medical procedures in the US which is bankrupting us to be blunt. Along with this we should seal up the border while providing an easier path to citizenship... for example, being able to speak english would be all a person would need, or pass a citizenship test. That way at least all these 'illegals' would be paying taxes, have a social security number, and be part of the system, instead of simply working for cash and being leeches from the system.
The real problem all these years, and we have been exporting jobs to china while having favorable tax rates for the rich for decades, is that we've had a strong dollar. This has encouraged us to build an economy based on debt and leverage instead of manufacturing. Everyone's dream job was to be the person who sits in an office surfing the net half the day. The strong dollar allowed us to become a paper pushing economy, exporting all our debt. It also made us not very competitive from a manufacturing standpoint. Why make something here when you can pay the chinese less, but more then that, take advantage of their weak currency exchange rates in the process. There's a reason Japan always tried to keep their currency weak, so they can keep their jobs and remain competitive internationally. This has spread to include many white collar jobs, which have been shipped off to India, again, because of exchange rates.
Another problem have been government pensions that far surpass what the free market pays. These people who got to retire at ridiculously early ages while having a pension and health care paid for simply because they chose to work for the government.. the government gave them too great of benefits to be honest.
People always look at programs like welfare and the like and blame our budget problems on single mothers sucking from the government teet...and yeah I don't personally like how women get more money for the more kids they have, and can basically not work a day job at all if they play their cards right, but corporate bailouts such as what happened during the last recession and the resulting bonuses many of these executives gave themselves was the far more criminal and costly act... these companies should have been allowed to fail and go bankrupt.. we've only postponed the inevitable.. the economy is not strong right now.. it's being propped up by a never ending cycle of quantitative easing by the federal reserve. Too much debt as a result of the weak dollar and our love of debt, too much interest to service at this point.. it either has to be liquidated, or inflated away, or both.
Aside from a strong dollar, fractional reserve compound interest banking is at the root of the problem.
Obama promised people they could KEEP their health care plan if they liked it. Now it's out that Obama KNEW back in 2010 that the Obama care plan would dump milions of Americans from their 'likeable' health care insurance, then offer them Obama insurance from 30 to double percent increase in cost.
People must have all items in Obama plan, like maternity for men ???
A socialist president and following, a socialist/democratic Senate.......God help us for the next three years.....
That sure has a lot to do with gun laws! And the Missouri legislature!
About 2.5% of policies will be dropped, or 1 in 40 policies. Most of them are very weak policies that cover the bare minimum of circumstances, and which for the policyholder amount to little more than gambling that nothing expensive will ever happen to them. So there is that. But hey, if you want your freedom to pay through the nose for a crap policy that will leave you bankrupt after you're diagnosed with cancer and you hit your lifetime $250,000 maximum after six months of care, then I guess we have very different definitions of freedom.
In the real world, as opposed to the right wing echo chamber world, I understand that people that have had their policies cancelled will be able to buy significantly better policies on the exchanges - and yes, some will be more expensive to households that earn more than 400% of the federal poverty limit and had bare bones coverage, but if a household earns less than 400% of the federal poverty line for themselves or their family unit (75k for a family of 3, for instance), they will be subsidized such that the final price of their policy is at or below 9.5% of household income. So if you're 55 and you have 2 kids at home and your household makes $60k, you'll likely pay around $500 a month for excellent health insurance in the new scenario. Whereas before, the 55 year old alone may have paid $500/mo for a terrible policy.
Missouri does have one problem, though. Since the state refused to expand FEDERALLY FUNDED Medicare eligibility, the very poor still have to pay the full premium. So if your household is unlucky enough to be below the federal poverty threshold, then you pay full price.
Now that there are some facts on the table, return to the discussion of guns and the MO legislature.
Problem is, Obamacare is the typical liberal government solution to any problem. Tackle the end result instead of the core problem. It's like tackling the football player in the end zone after a declared touchdown and saying it no longer counts because you just now tackled him. Like throwing a home-run ball back over the fence will magically reverse the call. Pushing a basketball reverse through the hoop to take the points away.
If they feel they have the right to control our bodies and health (insert ironic statement about abortion here), then "fix" the obesity and junk food problem. I know, they've made half-hearted attempts at that, but it's really the core problem. I wouldn't completely agree with that either, but at least it has the potential to be worthwhile. No amount of government intrusion can trump the fact that people are responsible for their actions and decisions. Ahem. *cough* AAAAA-hem.
And no amount of health insurance is going to make this nation healthier. Health insurance never was the problem. But hey, let's fix it anyway.
Obamacare does absolutely nothing but rearrange the deck, and not even in the favor of anyone. Few will be helped by this absurd legislation, but they'll prop up those few in triumphant fashion as if cancer itself had been cured forever.
Stock of Kraft Foods must be doing well.
Guns. The problem is with the people who use them, not the device. So the true waste of time is with the politians trying to control these lifeless chunks of steel rather than the abusive criminals who get their hands on them. Again, people need to be made responsible for their actions, preferably raised from a very young age to know that their are consequences for everything you do. Not talking about corporal punishment (have to assume that's always on the mind of liberals when they are busy stereotyping conservatives).
The ACA was a compromise, and it was in large part modeled after ROMNEYCARE! Mitt Romney was, if you recall, the GOP candidate in an obscure contest called the US Presidential election. The fact that a program modeled after a GOP governor's signature piece of legislation failed to get any GOP votes is strictly the GOP's problem. And frankly, if today's Democrats had their way we'd have had single payer model instead, which would be a far better approach if only for that doctors could spend a greater share of their practice's total workload practicing medicine rather than arguing with actuaries.
So Obama, who you undoubtedly support, tried to use Sandy Hook/Newtown to shift the public debate away from his failed economic policies to gun control, and now you are upset that Republicans at the state level are reacting to that national agenda to restrict gun rights with legislation aimed at protecting gun rights in Missouri? Why isn't Obama doing anything about the economy? Oh, because he's tried and all of his ideas have failed?
That pretty much hits the nail on the head right there.
America is far too broke to start another war to shift focus from the sputtering economy, so he's pushing a flawed heath care plan and pitting America against itself by attacking the Constitution and the NRA.
Ever heard the expression "Wag the Dog"?
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