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Old 09-11-2014, 08:20 PM
 
Location: Indiana Uplands
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Originally Posted by imbored198824 View Post
St Louis isn't southern at all. I visited there one month ago. No sweet tea. Northern accents. The architecture and overall culture is midwestern. It is a sharp contrast to areas of southern Missouri, that's for sure.
St. Louis climate, however, is southern IMO. It is exactly the same as Louisville if not warmer.
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Old 09-12-2014, 09:24 AM
 
Location: Paris
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St. Louis climate, however, is southern IMO. It is exactly the same as Louisville if not warmer.
Relative to Madison... ok... sure. Relative the the South in general? Not so much...
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Old 09-12-2014, 05:51 PM
 
Location: Indiana Uplands
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Relative to Madison... ok... sure. Relative the the South in general? Not so much...
St. Louis is at the periphery of the Midwest and Madison is closer to the core of the Midwest so I will disagree somewhat with your assertion there. I have a background in climatology so I am certain that St. Louis has the mildest climate in the Midwest and is comparable to those found in the northern reaches of the South like Louisville and Lexington.
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Old 09-13-2014, 04:16 AM
 
Location: Paris
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St. Louis is at the periphery of the Midwest and Madison is closer to the core of the Midwest so I will disagree somewhat with your assertion there. I have a background in climatology so I am certain that St. Louis has the mildest climate in the Midwest and is comparable to those found in the northern reaches of the South like Louisville and Lexington.
Well you don't really seem to be disagreeing with me that much though. I'm just saying the climate, compared to the South in general is not southern. It being similar to the northern most southern cities makes sense as it's a very southern Midwestern city. My relatives in the South would come up to St. Louis to see snow and experience the cold. I assume when you say mild you're just saying it has a milder winter than most of the Midwest? Because the climate kind of goes fairly extreme in both directions (I have family in Wisconsin as well btw, St. Louis's climate swings always felt more extreme to me).

Similar weather to the most northern southern cities does have pretty little weight in the thread as a whole though as it doesn't change the fact that the city of St. Louis has very little that is southern, much less the ridiculous claim that it is "the most southern" city in Missouri...
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Old 09-15-2014, 03:36 AM
 
Location: Branson, Missouri
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Anyone care to venture back to the original question and compile a list?
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Old 10-16-2014, 06:34 PM
 
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There's only two cities in Missouri. St Louis is more Southern than KC for sure. The Southern line for Missouri probably follows south of the Missouri River, St Louis-South, until about Columbia then it starts dropping rapidly towards Joplin. The SE part of Missouri is most Southern. Springfield/Joplin/Branson/SW MO is Ozarks, Southern yet a a different animal. KC Metro and MO North of the MO River from Columbia West is 100 % Midwest territory.
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Old 10-17-2014, 12:00 PM
 
Location: Paris
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There's only two cities in Missouri. St Louis is more Southern than KC for sure. The Southern line for Missouri probably follows south of the Missouri River, St Louis-South, until about Columbia then it starts dropping rapidly towards Joplin. The SE part of Missouri is most Southern. Springfield/Joplin/Branson/SW MO is Ozarks, Southern yet a a different animal. KC Metro and MO North of the MO River from Columbia West is 100 % Midwest territory.
You're dedicated to this strange cause, I'll give you that much...
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Old 10-18-2014, 10:53 AM
 
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St Louis does have a bit of southern feel to it, comparable to Louisville KY. Not sure if it's the people or attitude or just plain look of the city.
LOL I've seen your posts. St. Louis is nothing like Louisville or any other Southern cities. Purely Midwest.
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Old 10-18-2014, 10:55 AM
 
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There's only two cities in Missouri. St Louis is more Southern than KC for sure. The Southern line for Missouri probably follows south of the Missouri River, St Louis-South, until about Columbia then it starts dropping rapidly towards Joplin. The SE part of Missouri is most Southern. Springfield/Joplin/Branson/SW MO is Ozarks, Southern yet a a different animal. KC Metro and MO North of the MO River from Columbia West is 100 % Midwest territory.
St. Louis is culturally, demographically, and linguistically not Southern. And Kansas City historically has a history of being much more Southern than STL ever was. The Southern line for Missouri extends from Cape Girardeau to Springfield to Joplin. The transition zone begins below St. Louis, Jeff City, and Kansas City. Get your facts straight. You wouldn't know Southern if it smacked you in the face.
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Old 10-18-2014, 10:57 AM
 
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St. Louis is at the periphery of the Midwest and Madison is closer to the core of the Midwest so I will disagree somewhat with your assertion there. I have a background in climatology so I am certain that St. Louis has the mildest climate in the Midwest and is comparable to those found in the northern reaches of the South like Louisville and Lexington.
The northern reaches of the South are climatalogically more like the Midwest than the South though. That's the problem with your argument.
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