Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > New Jersey
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 11-14-2012, 06:05 PM
 
Location: NJ
31,771 posts, read 40,716,602 times
Reputation: 24590

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by EBWick View Post
"Red" southern & midwestern states get far more govt. cheese compared to states like CT, NY & NJ who give much more than they get back. And for the most part, we don't b*tch & moan about it like those who think they are "makers." We're too tough to complain.


Attachment 103739
if a state has a military base within it or defense companies in it that the federal government buys from or maintains, is that some form of welfare for the state?

democrats love that concept that red states take more than they give but its bs. they should at least narrow it down to actual welfare spending per person instead of including all federal money spent in the state.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 11-14-2012, 06:18 PM
 
Location: In an indoor space
7,685 posts, read 6,199,724 times
Reputation: 5154
I don't think NJ wouldn't be able to afford to pay the US Government their share of the national debt in exchange for the secedeing.

Rediculous anyway, it won't happen.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-14-2012, 06:22 PM
 
Location: NJ
31,771 posts, read 40,716,602 times
Reputation: 24590
Quote:
Originally Posted by lol-its-good4U View Post
I don't think NJ wouldn't be able to afford to pay the US Government their share of the national debt in exchange for the secedeing.

Rediculous anyway, it won't happen.
its funny you mention that. seceding from the union would remove a huge financial burden of federal debt from the state and stick the remaining states with it. another reason why the federal government will hurt more than the states that leave. no federal debt interest or principal payments.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-14-2012, 08:23 PM
 
3,984 posts, read 7,078,794 times
Reputation: 2889
Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainNJ View Post
if a state has a military base within it or defense companies in it that the federal government buys from or maintains, is that some form of welfare for the state?

democrats love that concept that red states take more than they give but its bs. they should at least narrow it down to actual welfare spending per person instead of including all federal money spent in the state.
Unnecessary military spending - which IMO is like 75% of military spending, now at a preposterous $700BN a year - is most definitely govt. welfare. Ike had it right when he said beware of the military industrial complex. We don't need bases in every country. Time for the rest of the free world to step up and waste their $. Thank God Mitt lost so we don't have to attack Iran.

Yes, Mississippi & West Virginia get much more welfare spending per person. If I'm wrong then link to a study.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-14-2012, 08:30 PM
 
Location: NJ
31,771 posts, read 40,716,602 times
Reputation: 24590
Quote:
Originally Posted by EBWick View Post
Unnecessary military spending - which IMO is like 75% of military spending, now at a preposterous $700BN a year - is most definitely govt. welfare. Ike had it right when he said beware of the military industrial complex. We don't need bases in every country. Time for the rest of the free world to step up and waste their $. Thank God Mitt lost so we don't have to attack Iran.
the idea of those "taker" states is deceptive and if you are ok with the deception, then continue to use it. im sure you will, the democrat doesnt care about honesty. the ends justify the means for a democrat.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-14-2012, 10:45 PM
 
10,181 posts, read 10,263,463 times
Reputation: 9252
Quote:
Originally Posted by EBWick View Post
Unnecessary military spending - which IMO is like 75% of military spending, now at a preposterous $700BN a year - is most definitely govt. welfare. Ike had it right when he said beware of the military industrial complex. We don't need bases in every country. Time for the rest of the free world to step up and waste their $. Thank God Mitt lost so we don't have to attack Iran.
It's only "unnecessary" until it's necessary, and then all the libs are whining about why their sons and daughters, who thought they'd get a free education in the military, have to go to war and don't have the basics. Until Obama pulls his head out of his pinched arsehole, stops bowing to head dictators in charge of ME countries, good luck with that line of thinking.

Quote:
Yes, Mississippi & West Virginia get much more welfare spending per person. If I'm wrong then link to a study.
You left out California.

Quote:
California's caseload far outnumbers the rest of the country, with 3.8 percent of its population on welfare in 2010.

According to data from the U.S. Census Bureau and the Department of Health and Human Services, Maine, the state with the second highest percentage, had 2.9 percent of its population on welfare. Tennessee, New Mexico and Washington, the next three states, were at 2.5 percent.
Nation's largest welfare state makes deep cuts - BusinessWeek


Main & New Mexico & Washington...blue or red?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-15-2012, 06:06 AM
 
Location: Savannah GA/Lk Hopatcong NJ
13,404 posts, read 28,739,320 times
Reputation: 12067
Heavenwood....as you said Texas is about the only state with the wiggle room (my words) to peacefully secede....why is that ? I can not find anything searching google...
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-15-2012, 06:55 AM
 
Location: Randolph, NJ
4,073 posts, read 8,983,838 times
Reputation: 3262
End the insanity. This is an on-line petition that is "signed" anonymously and is also being signed by many people from out of the state.

The appropriate review by the White House would be hitting the 'delete' key.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-15-2012, 08:35 AM
 
Location: NJ
31,771 posts, read 40,716,602 times
Reputation: 24590
Quote:
Originally Posted by HalfFull View Post
End the insanity. This is an on-line petition that is "signed" anonymously and is also being signed by many people from out of the state.

The appropriate review by the White House would be hitting the 'delete' key.
they shouldnt really be putting these petitions on the white house web site. online petitions are a joke.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-15-2012, 08:39 AM
 
271 posts, read 417,361 times
Reputation: 91
how do you find the link to sign the petition though
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:




Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > New Jersey
View detailed profiles of:

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 04:12 AM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top