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Old 06-18-2012, 07:47 AM
 
Location: Northern NJ
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I don't even have lots of family in NJ but I still wouldn't want to move away.
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Old 06-18-2012, 03:42 PM
 
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That's the problem, only other city like NYC would be Chicago if you can take the cold
I prefer NYC much more than Chicago. More opportunity, more diversity, closer to Europe, and plus knowing a lot of people in NYC area.
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Old 09-12-2012, 02:03 PM
 
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Leaving NJ as soon as I can afford to!

And it's not to NC or Florida either.
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Old 09-12-2012, 02:23 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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Looking to do so by the end of 2012....

because with all seriousness, I CAN'T AFFORD IT!!!
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Old 09-12-2012, 02:24 PM
 
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I prefer NYC much more than Chicago. More opportunity, more diversity, closer to Europe, and plus knowing a lot of people in NYC area.
And Chicago is flat broke...they're on the brink of financial ruin from the all the give-a-ways to the Unions. Not to mention super violent city.
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Old 09-12-2012, 05:54 PM
 
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Not trying to tell you how to be a good parent

BUT seriously, moving a 16 YEAR OLD KID is not a good idea ever, no matter what the circumstances, especially if it is from NYC metro to prairieland

I agree with you.........not a good idea!
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Old 09-12-2012, 06:15 PM
 
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There is no utopia. Anywhere you go is going to have some downfalls. I like the country like in upstate NY, but to retire there just doesn't make sense. I am staying in my urban suburb of NJ with low property taxes and walkable restaurants, supermarkets, and shopping. What can I say, I really like where I live and I can afford it. To each their own. Most people would hate where I live because you know, diversity is such a scary thing for most white people.
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Old 09-12-2012, 07:18 PM
 
Location: Elsewhere
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There is no utopia. Anywhere you go is going to have some downfalls. I like the country like in upstate NY, but to retire there just doesn't make sense. I am staying in my urban suburb of NJ with low property taxes and walkable restaurants, supermarkets, and shopping. What can I say, I really like where I live and I can afford it. To each their own. Most people would hate where I live because you know, diversity is such a scary thing for most white people.
I live in a leafy suburb in Central Jersey and neither neighbor on either side of me is white. One family is black, one Asian. You don't have to live in an urban setting to find diversity in NJ.

And how do you know how most white people feel anyway? If all the white people you know believe that diversity is scary, maybe you need to hang out with different people.

But back to your initial remark, I agree. Someone I know said that I should think about moving to New York state when I retire because our pension isn't taxable in New York and it is in New Jersey. So great, I move somewhere where I don't know a soul, don't know the area, can't find anything to do...but I'll save a few hundred bucks a year.
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Old 09-12-2012, 07:27 PM
 
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And how do you know how most white people feel anyway? If all the white people you know believe that diversity is scary, maybe you need to hang out with different people.
Ever hear of White Flight? Yeah, not many white folk living in Passaic anymore (except for the orthodox Jewish community)
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Old 09-13-2012, 07:18 AM
 
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Ever hear of White Flight? Yeah, not many white folk living in Passaic anymore (except for the orthodox Jewish community)
I've never known Passaic to be anything but a dump, so I can't comment on that specifically. And yes, there are still enclaves in this state where the areas are almost all white, and yes, there are outright racist people living in this state, too. But we are a generation past the White Flight of the 1960s, and while everything is still far from equal, there are many more middle-class black people than there were in 1965 and those people are living in the suburbs and for the most part, are welcome to be there.

I just bristle a bit when I see attributes assigned to an entire group of people as you did; e.g., all white people are like THIS, all black people do THAT, etc. People are individuals, and the idea of the majority of white people rushing out to sell their houses the minute a black person moves into the neighborhood is an outdated idea.

On a personal note, I moved INTO a neighborhood where black people already resided next door. And I have Malaysians on the other side. (I replaced elderly Koreans). Many of us PREFER a diverse area.I did a driveby on weekends before I bought there to see what kind of neighbors I had, and both immediate neighbors appeared to be family-oriented people from what I could see (and I was correct.)
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