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the way the ballot question is written in NJ, it may be 3 or 4 years before you can enter a dispensary and buy pot.
If it stops arrests in the meantime I can be patient for the rest. NJ is third in the nation for marijuana arrests, more than 30,000 a year and of those only about 3000 are for selling or conspiracy to sell the rest are simple possession. We just don’t hear about it all that much because it largely doesn’t affect us. 39% of the arrests are black folks, even though they only make up 13% of New Jersey population. That’s 30,000 people a year whose lives are effectively ruined, no chance of getting a job, apartment etc because they now have a record.
I got a bit upset on a Facebook group for my town, when people were saying things like “ I don’t think it should be illegal, but I’m going to vote no because I don’t like the way they wrote the tax portion“ or similar. So even though you don’t think it should be illegal, you’re fine with allowing people to continue to go to jail until the perfect bill is put in front of you? Again, most of us have the luxury of waiting knowing that we will not be affected most likely even if we smoke. A lot of people don’t.
The good news is there was a poll associated with that posting, and it was 65 yes to 16 no. Hopefully the numbers in real life will be similar.
i wonder if someone vote's no here, what is their culpability in the crimes that the police commit against people when enforcing these tyrannical laws? many people want to blame politicians but then assign them no penalty for their actions. many people want to claim police are innocent because they are just doing their jobs. if a vote is held where people can choose whether or not something remains criminal, do their have the responsibility of a politicians passing an illegal law? maybe anyone voting no should be locked in prison.
just because something is put to a vote doesnt actually mean that you have the right to make a yes vote. democracy is just tyranny of the majority and when you violates someone's natural rights, you are committing a real crime. nobody has the right to make any drugs illegal, doing so makes you guilty of violating people's natural rights.
In the case of marijuana, it is tyranny of the minority. Most polls show over 60% of Americans support legalization of pot.
In the case of marijuana, it is tyranny of the minority. Most polls show over 60% of Americans support legalization of pot.
people think that a republic is better than a democracy because instead of us voting on laws, we get a group of corrupt politicians to vote on our behalf. in this case, the corrupt politicians have passed laws that the majority of people dont agree with.
in either case, it doesnt really matter if people agree or not. what matters is that everyone's rights are respected. drug laws violate our natural rights and are wrong no matter how many people or politicians vote for them.
If it stops arrests in the meantime I can be patient for the rest. NJ is third in the nation for marijuana arrests, more than 30,000 a year and of those only about 3000 are for selling or conspiracy to sell the rest are simple possession. We just don’t hear about it all that much because it largely doesn’t affect us. 39% of the arrests are black folks, even though they only make up 13% of New Jersey population.That’s 30,000 people a year whose lives are effectively ruined, no chance of getting a job, apartment etc because they now have a record.
I got a bit upset on a Facebook group for my town, when people were saying things like “ I don’t think it should be illegal, but I’m going to vote no because I don’t like the way they wrote the tax portion“ or similar. So even though you don’t think it should be illegal, you’re fine with allowing people to continue to go to jail until the perfect bill is put in front of you? Again, most of us have the luxury of waiting knowing that we will not be affected most likely even if we smoke. A lot of people don’t.
The good news is there was a poll associated with that posting, and it was 65 yes to 16 no. Hopefully the numbers in real life will be similar.
must be too many police if they can offer to arrest people for simple possession. These days life goes on after a pot arrest, even the cops allow for past marijuana use on a job application. You're overstating the consequences of a simple pot arrest...
must be too many police if they can offer to arrest people for simple possession. These days life goes on after a pot arrest, even the cops allow for past marijuana use on a job application. You're overstating the consequences of a simple pot arrest...
there are too many police. also, the criminal justice industrial complex is the primary opposition to legalization efforts because it isnt good for their business.
a pot arrest is a kidnapping by an armed assailant. its putting you through a legal process and introducing a lot of risk of negative consequences in your life. i think its treated differently in different places so you cant say the same thing everywhere but its horrible no matter what. any cop who arrests anyone for a drug "crime" needs to be locked up.
people who think marijuana is the end are dead wrong. legalization isnt going to stop until all drugs are legal and prescriptions arent required for medication.
people who think marijuana is the end are dead wrong. legalization isnt going to stop until all drugs are legal and prescriptions arent required for medication.
Sounds good to me. But we should also have a one-strike-and-you're-out policy for Nalaxone. Second time you OD of your own free will (once drugs are legal and in controllable doses), you don't get saved. (maybe that's two strikes)
Sounds good to me. But we should also have a one-strike-and-you're-out policy for Nalaxone. Second time you OD of your own free will (once drugs are legal and in controllable doses), you don't get saved. (maybe that's two strikes)
i did get the feeling my post could have been seen as opposition so i should make it clear that i am for legalization of all drugs and ending prescription requirements for medication.
why do you feel the need to devise some kind of nalaxone policy where people wouldnt get it if they have an OD? are you getting some kind of satisfaction from the deaths of others that you feel the need to say "ok they can have drugs but if they OD i dont want them to have life saving medication?" do you think that including your evil immoral requirement makes you look like a decent person? i find it disgusting and totally insane that people have decided that 1. they have a right to have a say in withholding life saving medication from people and 2. that they have chosen to let people die.
why do you feel the need to devise some kind of nalaxone policy where people wouldnt get it if they have an OD? are you getting some kind of satisfaction from the deaths of others that you feel the need to say "ok they can have drugs but if they OD i dont want them to have life saving medication?" do you think that including your evil immoral requirement makes you look like a decent person?
I'm tired of supporting people forever regardless of their self-destructive behavior. They OD, get Nalaxone, are nursed back to some state of health at taxpayer expense, then they go out and OD again. At some point they should not be saved from the consequences of their actions.
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