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Old 06-11-2010, 10:38 AM
 
Location: Missouri Ozarks
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I've lived here since December and still have not found my way up to Cloudcroft.
Take a turn on hwy. 82 and go about 18 miles and that takes you into Cloudcroft.
It's a nice drive and the temp. changes are huge.
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Old 06-11-2010, 11:50 AM
 
Location: Where I live.
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RE: Border Patrol shooting of 15-year-old thug.....you can certainly tell where the Alamogordo Daily News's sympathies lie. They published an article about it, along with a big picture and caption of the boy's father crying over his son's casket in Juarez.

At least they refrained from putting it on the front page. I'm surprised that they didn't. The whole photo thing looks very staged, to milk the incident for everything they (Mexico) can get out of it.

Sorry if my cynicism is showing, but this whole thing just stinks. The teenager (if he really was a teenager) already had a record, and was no innocent angel, despite what the family would have you think.
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Old 06-11-2010, 11:51 AM
 
Location: Where I live.
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Take a turn on hwy. 82 and go about 18 miles and that takes you into Cloudcroft.
It's a nice drive and the temp. changes are huge.
They are, aren't they? I'll be so GLAD when June is OVER.
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Old 06-11-2010, 01:23 PM
 
Location: Canada
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Hay report:

2 string nice timothy/grass hay (from CO) delivered and stacked, cash price: 10.25 a bale

2 string nice local alfalfa, first cutting, delivered and stacked: 5.50 bale.
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Old 06-12-2010, 12:32 PM
 
Location: Alamogordo, NM
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Wish there was a major airport closer to Alamo than El Paso. Woke up at 4am to take my wife down to El Paso. This is the farthest I've lived from a major airport.

Also just got a text from her saying her Chicago to Harrisburg flight was cancelled...at least she got a later flight.

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Take a turn on hwy. 82 and go about 18 miles and that takes you into Cloudcroft.
It's a nice drive and the temp. changes are huge.
One of these days I'm going to go have some fun driving some trails in the mountains. Did it in the Black Hills of South Dakota.
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Old 06-12-2010, 01:57 PM
 
Location: Missouri Ozarks
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RE: Border Patrol shooting of 15-year-old thug.....you can certainly tell where the Alamogordo Daily News's sympathies lie. They published an article about it, along with a big picture and caption of the boy's father crying over his son's casket in Juarez.

At least they refrained from putting it on the front page. I'm surprised that they didn't. The whole photo thing looks very staged, to milk the incident for everything they (Mexico) can get out of it.

Sorry if my cynicism is showing, but this whole thing just stinks. The teenager (if he really was a teenager) already had a record, and was no innocent angel, despite what the family would have you think.
Yay, another bad person down.
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Old 06-12-2010, 04:40 PM
 
Location: Ruidoso, NM
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Wish there was a major airport closer to Alamo than El Paso. Woke up at 4am to take my wife down to El Paso.
I don't know the schedule, but there is a shuttle van that runs between Alamo and the EP airport on a daily basis. Cost is reasonable.
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Old 06-18-2010, 08:23 AM
 
Location: Ruidoso, NM
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Speaking of airports, the one at Ruidoso claimed five more lives yesterday, and possibly a couple more if they succumb to their injuries. The plain designed for six people had seven aboard and came down in rough terrain about a half mile short of the runway it was trying to land on.

It was three years ago that another plane crashed on takeoff with the loss of five lives, and that one was made even more tragic because it was a "life flight" flying a child and mother to medical care. All on board died including at least one medical attendant.

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Old 06-18-2010, 08:48 AM
 
Location: New Mexico U.S.A.
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The plain designed for six people had seven aboard and came down
The Cessna 310 early models of the plane held 4 people and later models grew to hold about 7 passengers, depending on model, STC's, configuration and a few other factors. I have not seen the actual model. The Cessna 310 was also operated under a few different military versions.

My prayers are with all the victums involved.



Rich
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Old 06-18-2010, 05:55 PM
 
Location: Ruidoso, NM
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Flight Instructor
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As a New Mexico flight instructor, I say this was a senseless tragedy that should never have happened. This "pilot," which is a stretch of a title, loaded a plane with 6 other trusting souls in a plane built with six TOTAL seats and seatbelts. Completely irresponsible and illegal. I speculate, having taught flying for 25 years and read hundreds of accident reports, that the plane was likely tail-heavy. The plane had only been registered to this man for 15 mos. A flatlander was operating an unforgiving, overloaded aircraft at a high-elevation airport. A classic "stall-spin" accident, by the sounds of it.

Shame, shame, shame. He had no right to take these family's trust and turn it to dust. Bozo.
I have known other pilots who told me how dangerous it is to land at high elevation airports without plenty of experience doing so.

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