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I would add high bridge. university heigths and melrose at that.
And if we also add Morris Heights we have the whole South Bronx! Should Soundview be considered as South Bronx? If Soundview suffered arson in the 70s, I will add it as part of South Bronx. Port Morris never gets mentioned as a bad area, is it mostly industrial? You would think that the crime and decay from Mott Haven would affect this area too.
Morris Heights is part of the Central Bronx, as is West Farms/East Tremont and University Heights. Port Morris is almost exclusively industrial, but that is changing as the area has been rezoned and lofts are converting to residential.
I didn't see much high crime in Soundview. Just a lot of poverty and filth. Many tenement dwellers, projects and SRO's I'm a white guy who walked down Westchester Ave at all times of night. Got lots of looks but never felt unsafe.
Some of those old tenements in Soundview by Elder ave (for example) have been purchased and are being repositioned to market rate with new tenants moving in. I met a dude who moved into a renovated apt and was paying $1,000 for a 1 bedroom...the apt was completely redone with an open kitchen/livingroom, new walls, electric, bathroom everything. The owners were doing this one apt at a time as they became vacant, however his existing neighbors were pretty bad, the elevator was in horrible condition, and he was generally unhappy with the building/area but liked the apt.
He is still there but not much has changed as apts don't come available hardly.
Is that the projects? I've been through the Sotomayor projects and the Bronx River houses. It seems that's where most of the blacks in Soundview live. Despite the sporadic men hanging out at street corners, they appear to be very quiet for projects. However, I've never been to either project on a summer night.
Some of those old tenements in Soundview by Elder ave (for example) have been purchased and are being repositioned to market rate with new tenants moving in. I met a dude who moved into a renovated apt and was paying $1,000 for a 1 bedroom...the apt was completely redone with an open kitchen/livingroom, new walls, electric, bathroom everything. The owners were doing this one apt at a time as they became vacant, however his existing neighbors were pretty bad, the elevator was in horrible condition, and he was generally unhappy with the building/area but liked the apt.
He is still there but not much has changed as apts don't come available hardly.
That's great but rare. The building my gf lived was a classic 5 floor walkup tenement spiced up with additionall tenants of mice. The lobby floor reeked of garbage and urine. The neighbors believed their apartments were salsa/reggaeton clubs. And to walk to the train you were required to look on the ground at all times to avoid walking into dog feces. She now lives on Colonial ave in Pelham Bay and it's like night and day. Plus, no added tenants walking on the floor, which are now real hardwood, not cheap parquet.
I can agree to that though the reasons are pretty clear to me... while it isn't exactly the hood it used to be, it just doesn't seem that it will ever get much better than it is right now which is unfortunate... I think it really was unrealistic to try and make this hood the next williamsburg. the two neighborhoods were two completely different scenarios. Williamsburg was the ideal testing ground in Brooklyn for gentrification and yuppy town for so many reasons. One, the side thats been completely gentrified was never a complete hood to begin with. The southside and east williamsburg were always more shady while in the northside there was a nice mix of jews, and european people along with the black and hispanic people. On top of that, it was the closest location to Manhattan...
It provided at the time a cheap location a train stop away from manhattan that had a gritty feel but not completely dangerous at the same time... Bushwick is obviously nowhere near what Williamsburg provided...
Speaking of the train, I think many who gambled on Bushwick are scratching their heads as to why why why. They probably gambled on the L artery/vein - and let's face it, the L is a vein. But if they were expecting big things for Bushwick, tough cookies. Someone should've told them a decent train line guarantees nothing. The MTA is making out nicely though.
A big thank you for saying the above (in blue text) because it's so true. I hate when people say "the artists made it nice" LOL -Beep - Wrong. Bedford/N.7 (where I was raised) was already nice - It just wasn't saturated with cafes and wutnot. Dare I say it was actually nicer back then (nicer people, quieter)
Is that the projects? I've been through the Sotomayor projects and the Bronx River houses. It seems that's where most of the blacks in Soundview live. Despite the sporadic men hanging out at street corners, they appear to be very quiet for projects. However, I've never been to either project on a summer night.
Yes, watson has projects. Bronx river were kinda quiet, i leved a few blocks away.
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