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Nothing but pure black&white propaganda BS. Totalitarian WWII era European governments of Germany, Italy, Hungary, Romania, USSR enjoyed OVERWHELMING popular support,
So in these Totalitarian governments there was OVERWHELMING popular support for:
Germany- the murder of 21 million people by the government
USSR - the murder of 62 million people by the government
Did you try to write fair tales & Sci Fi also? Sounds like it. What people did government of the USSR and Germany killed & when? Who was doing the killings a handful of SS men or millions of German burgers - soldiers? Were there any wars and/or "cold" civil wars going on at the time of the killings? Would you be pleased if Germans would have come up with the favorite American euphemism "collateral damage" 50 years earlier to justify civil population casualties of WWII? Or you would prefer Germans embracing the civilizator and "we are chosen by God" language of the American Indian fighters & exterminators to justify ethnic cleanings and Jewish population "removal"? Better yet, would you prefer Germans writing German Torah, The New Revelation Reloaded, mimicking a Holy book of Jews with all those ancient references to Godly' Genocide, extermination and land grab by the Jews EXCEPT that Germans are now the chosen ones?
You see you live in the political system made of two virtually indistinguishable parties, whatever dummy you choose it doesn't make any darn difference for the overall "course". It was not so for Germany and USSR in 1930s, both went through the hidden low intensity civil "wars". There was plenty of firearms on both sides of the issue when Hitler was fighting for the supreme power. If German communists could street fight Hitler supporters on equal terms before DEMOCRATIC election of Hitler as a German counselor, the very same communists with the very same weapons were SQUASHED and annihilated by the German state as soon as Hitler came to power. Their arms and bombs did NOT make any difference at all. Thus your insane proposition that hand guns keep state powers in check is just that - DELUSION. And yes, Hitler enjoyed overwhelming support of Germans (up to the point of course), Germans were sick of post WWI deprivations, they just needed a fearless leader showing them the way to glory and lebensraum, at whatever cost.
Have you ever thought about the fact that - probably - the vast majority of newyorkers don't own guns because they DON'T like them?
This is a true statement, and one that I've been saying this whole goddamn thread. One that people like SoBroGuy and the rest of you numb nuts who are having knee jerk reactions simply ignore and continue to ramble on.
Thank you for proving the point that you keep trying to counter.
This is a true statement, and one that I've been saying this whole goddamn thread. One that people like SoBroGuy and the rest of you numb nuts who are having knee jerk reactions simply ignore and continue to ramble on.
Thank you for proving the point that you keep trying to counter.
Tell me: if you love guns, why do you want EVERYONE to love and own guns?
Do you live in NYC?
If not, why do you care about it?
Tell me: if you love guns, why do you want EVERYONE to love and own guns?
Do you live in NYC?
If not, why do you care about it?
Ok so you don't understand what I'm saying to you. That's fair.
What I'm telling you, very simply, is that even if carrying permits were made easier to obtain legally for upstanding citizens, with clean records; the vast majority of people in this city would not go ahead and get one. There wouldn't be trains full of people who are strapped or families including children who are locked and loaded sitting down to dinner at restaurants. That is pure nonsense talk that one particular poster on here keeps going on about for some strange reason. It's ludicrous, and anyone who knows anything about this city can see that.
And yes I'm from here, and no I'm not some gung ho gun connoisseur.
Ok so you don't understand what I'm saying to you. That's fair.
What I'm telling you, very simply, is that even if carrying permits were made easier to obtain legally for upstanding citizens, with clean records; the vast majority of people in this city would not go ahead and get one. There wouldn't be trains full of people who are strapped or families including children who are locked and loaded sitting down to dinner at restaurants. That is pure nonsense talk that one particular poster on here keeps going on about for some strange reason. It's ludicrous, and anyone who knows anything about this city can see that.
And yes I'm from here, and no I'm not some gung ho gun connoisseur.
You understand now?
Pure nonsense?
Ok... it seems to me that trains and restaurants full of people with guns is a gun nuts' fantasy
In fact, is what the NRA is trying to do
Pure nonsense?
Ok... it seems to me that trains and restaurants full of people with guns is a gun nuts' fantasy
In fact, is what the NRA is trying to do
I see that you're still having trouble with this. Either that or you're trying to troll me, because the concept I am explaining to you seems damn near impossible to misconstrue.
Actually F that. I literally explained to you what I meant. Either you're a troll or someone who can't understand basic concepts but enjoys putting little emoticon faces all over posts. And if it's the latter, I am sorry about that I truly am.
Tell me: if you love guns, why do you want EVERYONE to love and own guns?
Do you live in NYC?
If not, why do you care about it?
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I used to drive a truck and I made many deliveries in to NYC areas. Hunts Point Meat Market, Hebrew National in Maspeth, a couple Kosher Houses in Brooklyn and a place on 125th(?) Street in Harlem. I carried a firearm ( a Federally legal length short shotgun) in my truck for my self defense. I never used a firearm although I had cargo stolen from my truck while I was in it. In that incident the punks had opened my trailer doors and dragged two hind quarters of beef in to their station wagon.
According to New York City and State Laws I was probably committing a felony by carrying a firearm. I say ***** New York. The Second Amendment of the Constitution gives me the right to keep and bear arms ANYWHERE in the U.S.A. Maybe some of you are willing to surrender that right but millions of us are not. I am sure my name is on a LIST being kept by some Government bureaucrat in some cubicle in Washington, D.C. or some other government facility. IF/ When TSHTF some government goons will knock down my door and confiscate SOME of my weapons. There is a FLIPSIDE to that coin however. Lists of people who insist on infringing on the rights of LAWFUL gun owners are probably being kept also.
So the moral of the story is you carry a gun supposedly out of fear/for your protection, you have never used it, and have never had a need to despite being robbed while you were in the truck ands traveling in some of the most notorious hoods.
So this begs the question, why do you feel you need to carry a loaded weapon again? People are dreaming of the Wild West shootouts...they don't exist, and are not as glamorous and "American" as Hollywood would have you believe..yet that is the society gunowners would like us all to have. No thanks.
Actually F that. I literally explained to you what I meant. Either you're a troll or someone who can't understand basic concepts but enjoys putting little emoticon faces all over posts. And if it's the latter, I am sorry about that I truly am.
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