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Old 12-03-2012, 06:07 PM
 
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There is NO NECESSARY CONNECTION between race and IQ. No essential link whatsoever, unless you consider the possibility of fetal alcohol syndrome or drug use during pregnancy.

I have met many truly stupid parents with gifted offspring, and vice versa.
GTiven the massive poverty and illiteracy and dysfunctional lawlessness in India itself I wonder where they get this from.

Silly people look an an immigrant in the USA and fail to put themj in perspective. Asian and subSaharan immigrants are way more educated than those who they6 leave behind. This being especially true for Africa and South Asia. So to make comments w/o considering thes efacts looks quite foolish.
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Old 12-03-2012, 06:11 PM
 
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It's a good sign that you identify yourself as an american. I know many Dominicans and even 3rd generation Ricans who are still "holding on" to their home country sometimes way too much. On some level and in some cases they refuse to assimilate themeselves to american culture which sometimes holds them back to fully make it in this country.
What do you say about Jewish AMERICANS who hold on to Israel and who also demand that this should determine US foreign policy? Most have never lived there and many have never been there.
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Old 12-03-2012, 06:14 PM
 
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I don't think they will. I think they will simply import people. Keep in mind Romney's comment that he wants to encourage "the best and brightest" to immigrate to America. Is this not what the powers-that-be have encouraged in New York ?

Of course, he did not define what he meant by "best and brightest." My guess is, "people who think like me ..." Or who do not, in any case, pose a challenge to such.

The best and the brightest increasingly return home. The USA isnt quite seen the same way that it used to be,
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Old 08-13-2014, 11:13 PM
 
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Jew's suffered for the past 3000 years under the yolk of, Egypt, sea peoples, Babylons, Persians, Greeks, Romans, Byzantines, crusaders, Spanish empire, kingdom of Portugal, Vatican, kingdom of France, Russian Empire, Nazi Germany, Soviet union, Arab States, Russian Federation. Jews had it tough. Not only that but the civilizations I have mentioned were one way shape or form a dominate regional ot super power and many targeted Jews for political gain. African Americans only been around since 1776 and to ne honest at an historical perspective African Americans faired much better than the Jews.
Perhaps we should look at this also.

"Jews also took an active part in the Dutch colonial slave trade; indeed, the bylaws of the Recife and Mauricia congregations (1648) included an imposta (Jewish tax) of five soldos for each Negro slave a Brazilian Jew purchased from the West Indies Company. Slave auctions were postponed if they fell on a Jewish holiday. In Curacao in the seventeenth century, as well as in the British colonies of Barbados and Jamaica in the eighteenth century, Jewish merchants played a major role in the slave trade. In fact, in all the American colonies, whether French (Martinique), British, or Dutch, Jewish merchants frequently dominated."

"This was no less true on the North American mainland, where during the eighteenth century Jews participated in the 'triangular trade' that brought slaves from Africa to the West Indies and there exchanged them for molasses, which in turn was taken to New England and converted into rum for sale in Africa."

"Slave trading was a major feature of Jewish economic life in Surinam which as a major stopping-off point in the triangular trade."

"The Jews were the recipients of favorable charters containing generous economic privileges granted by the Dutch West Indies Company in Amsterdam. The economic life of the Jewish community of Curacao revolved around ownership of sugar plantations and marketing of sugar, the importing of manufactured goods, and a heavy involvement in the slave trade, within a decade of their arrival, Jews owned 80 percent of the Curacao plantations."

Jewish Involvement In Black Slave Trade To The Americas


"The New World location where the Jews played the largest role in the slave-trade was in the Caribbean and Suriname, most notably in possessions of Holland, that were serviced by the Dutch West India Company. The slave trade was one of the most important occupations of Jews living in Suriname and the Caribbean. The Jews of Suriname were the largest slave-holders in the region.


The only places where Jews came close to dominating the New World plantation systems were Curaçao and Suriname. Slave auctions in the Dutch colonies were postponed if they fell on a Jewish holiday. Jewish merchants in the Dutch colonies acted as middlemen, buying slaves from the Dutch West India Company, and reselling them to plantation owners. The majority of buyers at slave auctions in the Brazil and the Dutch colonies were Jews.

Jews played a "major role" in the slave trade in Barbados and Jamaica.
Jewish plantation owners in Suriname helped to suppress several slave revolts in the period 1690 to 1722.

Jewish views on slavery - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 08-13-2014, 11:14 PM
 
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Jew's suffered for the past 3000 years under the yolk of, Egypt, sea peoples, Babylons, Persians, Greeks, Romans, Byzantines, crusaders, Spanish empire, kingdom of Portugal, Vatican, kingdom of France, Russian Empire, Nazi Germany, Soviet union, Arab States, Russian Federation. Jews had it tough. Not only that but the civilizations I have mentioned were one way shape or form a dominate regional ot super power and many targeted Jews for political gain. African Americans only been around since 1776 and to ne honest at an historical perspective African Americans faired much better than the Jews.
“After World War II, a new consensus emerged in the United States and Europe that Jews had to be integrated posthumously into white Europeanness, and that the horror of the Jewish holocaust was essentially a horror at the murder of white Europeans. Since the 1960s, Hollywood films about the holocaust began to depict Jewish victims of Nazism as white Christian-looking, middle class, educated and talented people not unlike contemporary European and American Christians who should and would identify with them. Presumably if the films were to depict the poor religious Jews of Eastern Europe (and most East European Jews who were killed by the Nazis were poor and many were religious), contemporary white Christians would not find commonality with them. Hence, the post-holocaust European Christian horror at the genocide of European Jews was not based on the horror of slaughtering people in the millions who were different from European Christians, but rather a horror at the murder of millions of people who were the same as European Christians. This explains why in a country like the United States, which had nothing to do with the slaughter of European Jews, there exists upwards of 40 holocaust memorials and a major museum for the murdered Jews of Europe, but not one for the holocaust of Native Americans or African Americans for which the US is responsible.”

The Last of the Semites by Joseph Massad

The last of the Semites - Opinion - Al Jazeera English
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Old 08-14-2014, 12:10 AM
 
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Jew's suffered for the past 3000 years under the yolk of, Egypt, sea peoples, Babylons, Persians, Greeks, Romans, Byzantines, crusaders, Spanish empire, kingdom of Portugal, Vatican, kingdom of France, Russian Empire, Nazi Germany, Soviet union, Arab States, Russian Federation. Jews had it tough. Not only that but the civilizations I have mentioned were one way shape or form a dominate regional ot super power and many targeted Jews for political gain. African Americans only been around since 1776 and to ne honest at an historical perspective African Americans faired much better than the Jews.
Jews have been in what is now the USA since the 1490s & early 1500s. So we have to take into consideration that the Jewish cultural & historical experiences & different nuances with which the Jewish diaspora encompasses & is ensconced in!
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Old 08-14-2014, 07:53 AM
 
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GTiven the massive poverty and illiteracy and dysfunctional lawlessness in India itself I wonder where they get this from.

Silly people look an an immigrant in the USA and fail to put themj in perspective. Asian and subSaharan immigrants are way more educated than those who they6 leave behind. This being especially true for Africa and South Asia. So to make comments w/o considering thes efacts looks quite foolish.
There's a lot of poor African and South Asian immigrants in the US itself. And in the corporate world Africans and South Asians are extremely rare. Unless the African or Indian has a degree from Harvard or another top university they will not deal with them in the corporate world, with the exception of a few rock bottom programming jobs (and I wonder how this is working out with Microsoft, IBM, Cisco all having huge layoffs).
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Old 08-14-2014, 08:09 AM
 
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Kids self segregate naturally after a certain age anyway
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