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If the bloods did indeed put out a hit on any NYC officer, it could turn out to be the best thing that happened to this city in some time.
That is not something to be taken lightly, and I hope the NYPD comes down swiftly and severely against any piece of gangster trash. Put the political correctness aside. Stop trying to appease these so called community leaders that hold their community back. That clown city councilman questioning the cops.....go question your community as to why 16 year old gangsters are pulling guns on cops.
It doesn't matter how many gang members you imprison or kill, more will step up and take their place. Also, prisons are breeding grounds for gangs.
Where is Al Sharpton? Isn't he supposed to be working with Commisioner Ray Kelly to get guns off the streets and out of the hands of the cities black youths?
Al is busy making money doing media projects, and chatting with GOP types about education, etc. Maybe Charles Barron will take over next yeasr when he is unemployed.
That clown city councilman questioning the cops.....go question your community as to why 16 year old gangsters are pulling guns on cops.
Yes, his failure to ever initiate actual change is saddening for that entire community. I don't think he is very smart, but on the other hand, he is smart enough to know which positions will get him re-elected.
Apparently the family contacted a damages law firm ... yesterday ? I think. Or the day before.
Doing a "better job" starts at home. Parent(s) need to parent.
These are Caribbean parents too busy working two jobs to pay the rent, or the mortgage. They get home, grouchy and have no interest in what the kids have to say. In adddition their US raised kids are strangers to them and when they tried Caribbean style discipline (some strokes on the back side), do- gooders told them that a "time out" is better. Indeed some of these parents are probably afraid of their kids and the lawyers and social workers who will listen to their lies.
Having said that the police need to expand a program thatthey have in ENY where they target gangbangers and other trouble makers, letting them know that they are being watched. Less troublesome kids them keep away from these bad ones.
When fewer "innocent" kids are targeted (not saying that this kid was as he had a gun) then there will be a less reflexive reaction from the community to stigmatize acts by the police. Let us hope that the new mayor institutes TARGETED stop and frisk, and not this scatter shot approach which drags in the good with the bad.
At the end of the day if 50% of the population lack the skills that NYC needs to compete in global markets its long term economic viability will be hampered.
Why didn't the parents organize and work with the city to find a building ? There are resources for such things.
Not going to happen. The parents are too busy working two jobs to deal wth anything other than their immediate survival. In addition I suspect that some of them might even hate their kids, who have a US ghetto style, and not the 1970s Caribbean attitude to parental authority. I never hear any nice comments about black kids (American or Caribbean) coming from the mouths of Caribbean people who are over 40.
The problem here is not the same as your NYCHA projects with unemployed adults living off govt largesse with oodles of time on their hands. This is about adults who earn $25k/year(security guards/Home Attendants, etc) and so need another job as they definitely cant pay that $1,600/2,000 month rent for a 3BR on that.
Note also that in situations like this you will hear the 20 loud mouths in the neighborhood, and the ambulance chasing politicians who seek patronage dollars to fund some program. Not the majority who are tired of the kids, tired of being targeted by the cops (because the cops stigmatize the entire community) and completely cynical about any politician or "community leader" being able/willing to help.
Evidently it wasnt his gun, but one he was holding for a friend. The tragedy is that he might not be a thug (he might have known what to do if he was and that is disappear) but an "average" and stupid kid with some bad friends.
Some say that the gun was in the waist band, not pointed at the cops. We dont know.
These are Caribbean parents too busy working two jobs to pay the rent, or the mortgage. They get home, grouchy and have no interest in what the kids have to say. In adddition their US raised kids are strangers to them and when they tried Caribbean style discipline (some strokes on the back side), do- gooders told them that a "time out" is better. Indeed some of these parents are probably afraid of their kids and the lawyers and social workers who will listen to their lies.
Having said that the police need to expand a program thatthey have in ENY where they target gangbangers and other trouble makers, letting them know that they are being watched. Less troublesome kids them keep away from these bad ones.
When fewer "innocent" kids are targeted (not saying that this kid was as he had a gun) then there will be a less reflexive reaction from the community to stigmatize acts by the police. Let us hope that the new mayor institutes TARGETED stop and frisk, and not this scatter shot approach which drags in the good with the bad.
At the end of the day if 50% of the population lack the skills that NYC needs to compete in global markets its long term economic viability will be hampered.
A perfect example was the shooting last year in the williamsbridge section of the Bronx were cops chased a kid and shot him in his house, his parents especially his father constantly work, sadly no one is never home to watch their kids do whatever, however Caribbean parents expect their kids to do well in school and hopefully they become a medical technician, or a nurse or a c. P. A.
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Yes, it is, when the thugs are the real problems in the neighborhoods. Then when something happens who do they call, the cops.
The ordinary person fears BOTH the thugs and the cops. They expect the thugs to act like thugs. They are shocked when the police behave the same way.
Next yeAr we will have a fresh start. Lets hope that there will be honest discussion that is no longer possible with an Imperial Mayor who has now run mad.
These are Caribbean parents too busy working two jobs to pay the rent, or the mortgage. They get home, grouchy and have no interest in what the kids have to say. In adddition their US raised kids are strangers to them and when they tried Caribbean style discipline (some strokes on the back side), do- gooders told them that a "time out" is better. Indeed some of these parents are probably afraid of their kids and the lawyers and social workers who will listen to their lies.
Having said that the police need to expand a program thatthey have in ENY where they target gangbangers and other trouble makers, letting them know that they are being watched. Less troublesome kids them keep away from these bad ones.
When fewer "innocent" kids are targeted (not saying that this kid was as he had a gun) then there will be a less reflexive reaction from the community to stigmatize acts by the police. Let us hope that the new mayor institutes TARGETED stop and frisk, and not this scatter shot approach which drags in the good with the bad.
At the end of the day if 50% of the population lack the skills that NYC needs to compete in global markets its long term economic viability will be hampered.
Pardon me while I call your post a crock of sh*t. Everyone wants to hide behind some lame excuse to justify the fact their kid is feral little a$$hat and their crappy parenting is the reason.
Let's change the color to white, would the reasoning that the parent(s) work 2 jobs and are "scared" of their children pass the test?
A perfect example was the shooting last year in the williamsbridge section of the Bronx were cops chased a kid and shot him in his house, his parents especially his father constantly work, sadly no one is never home to watch their kids do whatever, however Caribbean parents expect their kids to do well in school.
His father has some menial job and I suspect very depressed, as many middled aged low income men, who arent thugs, tend to be as they cant support their families. Maybe a bad home situation with an angry wife who daily emasculates him because of his inadequate earnings. He seems to be a rather meek man, most likely afraid of his US born sons, his wife and his baby mama.
The kid who was killed was a baby mama's kid. I cant imagine that his wife was nice when she heard of this. The baby mama is also a working woman and there is a family structure in the house.
I do know that there are scenarios where immigrant parents try to use their type of discipline. The kids call social services and the parents are punished, and so stop disciplining as they dont know how to do it US style. Not being educated they do not know how to use US style discipline with good effect.
Sorry telling a kid "time out" is laughable coming from a Caribbean mouth. They do not understand how telling a kid to stay in his room achieves anything. And their street wise kids probably can easily deal with this using todays tech gadgets.
Maybe that works in nice white affluent neighborhoods where there arent predator thugs (with disinterested parents) trying to recruit people's kids.
This is a big problem and it doesnt fall into an easy neat category of bad cops, or bad parents, or bad teachers.
There is a huge generational stress between working class Caribbean BORN AND RAISED parents, who have old school attitudes towards discipline. They demand respect frrom their kids, and their US born and/or bred kids, are unfortunately are impacted by the US ghetto, and by liberal "do gooders" who tell the parents that the attitudes are Victorian.
This kid is of Jamaican/Guyanese parentage as I bet most of the rioting kids. Jumaane Williams would be driven out of Grenada (where his parents come from) if he carried his silliness back there.
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