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You are correct about racism existing everywhere and the notion that only whites (and those closest to white) deserve a good quality of life, but in my opinion, poor black people should relocate to more rural and country areas, where stop and frisk (and the police presence) is not so prevalent.
That's easier said then it is done Miranda, moving to more rural areas especially when you don't know anyone is NOT always a good option, and although the incomes and cost of living might be 'lower' to a certain extent, that doesn't mean the 'jobs' are more plentiful especially in this economy (which is getting harder almost every day). I have a friend who moved south last year and she's still 'struggling' financially, and the fact that she can't drive makes it that much harder. 'Education' plays a very 'small' part in this as well.
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^ for real. you can get stranded much quicker in
the country than you can in the city.
Even going to the convenience store can be a drive in much of the country. So if you can't drive either learn or don't go. With no way to get around how would you go to work, eat, go to the doctor, etc.?
That's easier said then it is done Miranda, moving to more rural areas especially when you don't know anyone is NOT always a good option, and although the incomes and cost of living might be 'lower' to a certain extent, that doesn't mean the 'jobs' are more plentiful especially in this economy (which is getting harder almost every day). I have a friend who moved south last year and she's still 'struggling' financially, and the fact that she can't drive makes it that much harder. 'Education' plays a very 'small' part in this as well.
Unless you have family or friends who can host you or help hook you up with a job, its not a good idea to go to the country where you don't know anyone. Especially if you've never lived in a rural area before. And if you can't drive you're super screwed.
I'm not saying people shouldn't move to rural areas if they WANT to, but one needs to plan this out. And you'll want to know where local resources are, including medical. There are people in rural areas that have to drive two hours to go to the doctor. Small towns rarely have specialists. Generally people who live in them must drive to bigger towns or in some cases big cities for medical services.
I'd go as far as to say if you're contemplating a move to a rural area spend some time there and hang out there and see how people live there. See if it's for you. It's not for everyone.
Now there are people who are too disabled to ever learn how to drive and they probably should never move to a rural area where transportation is going to be a huge issue, especially if they don't know anyone there.
By your logic, everyone in the country should automatically get welfare for a certain period of time, and they should get to stay on it until they get comfortable on their jobs!
Everyone had to start out somewhere in terms of getting used to a job. I never had budget counseling, and I bet neither have most working Americans. Why do you think these people are ENTITLED to all this ridiculous extra care?
Do you not see that the attitude that these people are entitled to everything most working people never really get or had has led to HUGE cuts on all services in a bad economy?
Plenty of working people are out their struggling to make ends meet and pay their bills. Middle class people struggle to make mortgage payments, auto loan payments, etc. So why are ghetto people entitled to a comfortable cushion from the government when they START WORKING?
On that angle, the current system is fair. As soon as you make money, your benefits need to be CUT. Unless the person has a severe medical condition they can survive a couple of months without insurance. The era of entitlements and easy welfare is OVER. That ship has SAILED.
Even Ronald Reagan wanted to end welfare by giving every family on welfare 25K for 5 years and let them earn as much as they could without cutting any of their benefits, including letting them go to school, college etc. But after that five years was up, he wanted to shut it down completely. Just end the welfare system after that.
Why was he considering doing that? Let's use a young person that has completed their education whatever level that is and they go out on their own. For many that come from a relatively comfortable home no matter how humble, they just don't walk out and never come back without occasional help.
It takes time to realize that the rest of the world doesn't think you are that smart, or that good-looking, and let you get over like your parents did. People make mistakes, they have to learn social skills. They may need some cash from mom and dad sometimes. That roommate situation may not be working out and it may take a few trips back home to the old bedroom, to finally get it right and be gone for good.
I think his way should have been tried. The smart ones would have a good chance. The ones that can't figure it out in those 5 years well they'll just be up the creek. But we are spending way more in this city on these band-aids
I'm primarily referring to poor/working class black people who have low income jobs. What these people don't understand is, they wouldn't need housing subsidies or food stamps to make it in rural areas, because the housing and cost of living is so cheap. If one is working at a fast food store or at a supermarket in NYC, they would do far better residing in the South or a rural Midwestern area while working at Walmart or Mcdonalds. That is my ultimate point.
You won't usually find a lot of low income/working class whites in the major cities. Typically, they take advantage of the cheap/rural areas of the country which are primarily hidden, with little to no policing.
But if middle-to lower-middle income black people started moving into those areas too, you can bet anything that the policing would suddenly increase exponentially. All you have to have is brown skin and people automatically assume you must be a criminal. I have a NYS Math teaching license and I got "stopped and frisked" driving through Brooklyn because "your tail light's out, ma'am, can I see your license, registration and proof of insurance"...
Unless you have family or friends who can host you or help hook you up with a job, its not a good idea to go to the country where you don't know anyone. Especially if you've never lived in a rural area before. And if you can't drive you're super screwed.
I'm not saying people shouldn't move to rural areas if they WANT to, but one needs to plan this out. And you'll want to know where local resources are, including medical. There are people in rural areas that have to drive two hours to go to the doctor. Small towns rarely have specialists. Generally people who live in them must drive to bigger towns or in some cases big cities for medical services.
I'd go as far as to say if you're contemplating a move to a rural area spend some time there and hang out there and see how people live there. See if it's for you. It's not for everyone.
Bingo. With a freshly-minted NYS teaching license one could always go out and join organizations like Teachers Without Borders, World Teach, the Peace Corps (theoretically; these days it takes at least 4 years to hear back from them) the Americorps, etc...and they send you to places where you had to drive two and a half hours to the nearest Emergency Room with a toothache because there weren't any dentists who would see you and be able to take that Medicaid card you couldn't get because you weren't a resident of that state - and by the way not every state has such "generous" benefits as New York and Massachusetts when it comes to Medicaid covering dental.
I'll say this again. And this is coming from a Black person who lived in a rural environment for a year in West Virgina. Urban Blacks and rural Blacks do not have much in common. You might be able to get an urban Black to move to a predominately Black rural community, like what one finds in North Carolina, Georgia, Alabama, Florida, or Mississippi. But if other Blacks do not already live there, most bets are off.
The closest most Blacks come to rural living is on islands like the Bahamas, life in Africa or the aboriginals in Australia. It is cultural, not practical, as is the case with a lot of things we do, because we feel that our strength is in numbers; we're not as adventurous as you are.
I had my in laws as family in West Virgina. I never would have entertained it otherwise. The Appalachian areas are hard for anyone to live in, White or Black. But the endless intellectualism in this forum will not change anything because your average Black person will never see it the way you do. Latinos, others, they get it. Blacks want city living, and they want New York on an Iowa budget.
Okay now I've gotten that off of my chest. Carry on. As you were.
I'll say this again. And this is coming from a Black person who lived in a rural environment for a year in West Virgina. Urban Blacks and rural Blacks do not have much in common. You might be able to get an urban Black to move to a predominately Black rural community, like what one finds in North Carolina, Georgia, Alabama, Florida, or Mississippi. But if other Blacks do not already live there, most bets are off.
The closest most Blacks come to rural living is on islands like the Bahamas, life in Africa or the aboriginals in Australia. It is cultural, not practical, as is the case with a lot of things we do, because we feel that our strength is in numbers; we're not as adventurous as you are.
I had my in laws as family in West Virgina. I never would have entertained it otherwise. The Appalachian areas are hard for anyone to live in, White or Black. But the endless intellectualism in this forum will not change anything because your average Black person will never see it the way you do. Latinos, others, they get it. Blacks want city living, and they want New York on an Iowa budget.
Okay now I've gotten that off of my chest. Carry on. As you were.
Why do Blacks assume that can speak for other Blacks? Where does this ghetto herd mentality come from, and why is it always from the most ignorant of people ? I went to universityl for 4 years in a rural environment in upstate New York (Ithaca, NY). I lived for another couple of years in that area and I enjoyed it.
Btw, there are Blacks in small towns even in the rural Northeast and out West. There are Blacks in small towns in Central and South America (the Caribbean and Africa are not the only places to have Blacks).
Truthfully, the average poor inner city Black person can't afford to move to a rural area. Housing won't be free, nor will the car (you must drive). So unless you got family or friends to host you, you aren't moving anywhere. It takes money to move.
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