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By average I mean everyone except rich. I might be missing someth, but unless one makes 120k+ a yr, which is actually middle class here, even in the outer boroughs and suburbs, what's the point of living here? Most people don't make that much so why are they still here? Quality of life is an arguable concept, but standard of living is not, and it is quite low around here. I can understand if you prefer NYC to other cities because of unique things it offers, BUT when you don't have much money, you can't use those amenities anyway so what's the point? I don't really understand all the people who are not stuck here due to families or what not choosing to live in such subpar living conditions. Is it because they haven't traveled around this country to see how much easier life can be or scared to leave or what? This includes NYC suburbs too, which don't really offer a way out cuz they are also overpriced and overcrowded. Bad quality of housing and small amount of new housing makes it even worse.
Because many of us are stuck. You need money to move, and it difficult to save up if you're barely making enough to get by, and because finding a job outside of the city is very difficult.
Because many of us are stuck. You need money to move, and it difficult to save up if you're barely making enough to get by, and because finding a job outside of the city is very difficult.
i hear ya, but unless someth important is holding u here, its doable
btw, in regards to amenities, unless ur a broadway and museum junkie, i dont see many things offered here that other major cities dont have, and there are major cities that are affordable still
I live in Northern NJ and plan to move to Seattle, which is a good example of a major city that is reasonably priced, with good salaries and a decent amount of things to do
btw, in regards to amenities, unless ur a broadway and museum junkie, i dont see many things offered here that other major cities dont have, and there are major cities that are affordable still
I live in Northern NJ and plan to move to Seattle, which is a good example of a major city that is reasonably priced, with good salaries and a decent amount of things to do
Seattle and Portland are 2 cities I would love to live in, however they're very far.
Seattle and Portland are 2 cities I would love to live in, however they're very far.
i actually lived in portland before and its nice QOL wise, but its pretty boring and the economy is mediocre
its not bad for someone who wants a real laid back, nice, smaller city tho
This is my list of reasonably priced, nicer cities that are good to move to, depending on each person's preferences on culture and weather:
Portland, Seattle, Sacramento, Denver, Minneapolis, Columbus, Pittsburgh. San Diego is kinda pricey, but I feel like it's worth it too if you like that kinda setting.
Many people live in NYC and make much less than 60K and have no complaints. Not everyone is good at managing money and still enjoying what the city has to offer.
Many people live in NYC and make much less than 60K and have no complaints. Not everyone is good at managing money and still enjoying what the city has to offer.
for some reason i think if they have no complains is cuz this is all they know
You can have a perfectly good life here without making $120,000 a year if you choose to live in a non-trendy neighborhood. People in the city raise families, go to school, and find decent jobs to do if they are skilled tradesman, entrepreneurs, civil servants, or have a higher education. There are tons of free and moderately priced attractions -- many more than you can find in other cities. There is the amazing diversity of people and neighborhoods that is second to none. There is, most of all, the chance for upward mobility that attracts both educated newcomers and impovershed immigrants from around the world. The streets are not paved with gold, for sure. And some will definitely fail. But the CHANCE to better yourself and your family will always make this town a magnet.
If you just want an "ordinary" life maybe NYC isn't for you. But a hell of a lot of people -- including those of us born here -- want more than that. We may not get it, but aiming high and falling short still beats a split-level in some small town no one has ever heard of.
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