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Actually if someone is that worried and has that attitude then they should not be a cop. Yes, it can be dangerous when you stop someone or you a complaint can be issued but presumably the person knew all this before ACCEPTING the JOB!
I think a lot of these people take these jobs as wide eyed do gooders. I'm gonna save the world. After a few years then reality sets in. For instance look at the border crisis. I'm sure the border agents take that job with all intention in securing the borders. Then reality sets in that isn't gonna happen. BTW I'm not telling someone not to do their job. But look at this case. What are we talking about? Unlicensed cigs? Who gives a Fvck!!! Is that worth gong to jail over? is that worth losing your pension over? Look at the big picture.
No it's not a major crime, but it is a crime non the less, and the death penalty is not warranted, which is a good reason why they didn't kill him. If no resistance (yes saying this like I'm tired of this, this ends today, putting your hands up yelling don't touch me and backing away are resisting arrest) he would have spent the day and gotten a summons to appear and possibly a fine and some community service. The officer did not cut this mans air supply until he stopped breathing, at most he's guilty of not following procedure for a takedown, the man was talking and conscious after the hold was released, stop feeding into the media and the racism play. It's a tragedy, a man lost his life, he was not murdered though. And the fact that people actually believe that is another tragedy. When you commit a crime you do not get to choose if you get arrest or a summons or anuthing, that's the cops decision not yours, if you don't agree with it, that's what the courts are for. This man was tired of being arrested for breaking the law (even a small law is a law, not to mention he was known to sell drugs as well) he made it clear he wasn't going peacefully and it was gonna stop today. He'd be alive and with his family if he would have just put his hands behind his back and obeyed the law.
I couldn't agree more.
I'm sorry but his original crime has absolutely no bearing on this whatsoever. I don't care if he was jaywalking and the cops were just harassing him or if he was committing a violent crime the moment you resist arrest for any reason as far as I'm concerned (as a citizen) you are considered dangerous. It's a tragedy that he died it really is. But unfortunately his death is his own doing - you put your hands behind your back, comply with the officers' direction and make them feel safe since their job is inherently not safe. Then you lawyer up and deal with the issues in court. Spend the night in jail, go home to see your wife and kids. End of story.
I'm sorry but his original crime has absolutely no bearing on this whatsoever. I don't care if he was jaywalking and the cops were just harassing him or if he was committing a violent crime the moment you resist arrest for any reason as far as I'm concerned (as a citizen) you are considered dangerous. It's a tragedy that he died it really is. But unfortunately his death is his own doing - you put your hands behind your back, comply with the officers' direction and make them feel safe since their job is inherently not safe. Then you lawyer up and deal with the issues in court. Spend the night in jail, go home to see your wife and kids. End of story.
The cop applied a choke hold, which is banned by the NYPD because it has KILLED people , restricting his air supply. IF the illegal maneuver suffocated him OR caused unnecessary stress triggering a heart attack, the piggy is at fault for the death . Period.
The cop applied a choke hold, which is banned by the NYPD because it has KILLED people , restricting his air supply. IF the illegal maneuver suffocated him OR caused unnecessary stress triggering a heart attack, the piggy is at fault for the death . Period.
Sorry but I just can't ignore your choice term for police officers and pretend like you aren't 100% biased against them.
I'm sorry but his original crime has absolutely no bearing on this whatsoever. I don't care if he was jaywalking and the cops were just harassing him or if he was committing a violent crime the moment you resist arrest for any reason as far as I'm concerned (as a citizen) you are considered dangerous. It's a tragedy that he died it really is. But unfortunately his death is his own doing - you put your hands behind your back, comply with the officers' direction and make them feel safe since their job is inherently not safe. Then you lawyer up and deal with the issues in court. Spend the night in jail, go home to see your wife and kids. End of story.
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Originally Posted by ayoitzrimz
Sorry but I just can't ignore your choice term for police officers and pretend like you aren't 100% biased against them.
Resisting arrest is not a death sentence or a warrant for illegal tactics. Period. Your argument is wrong.
Resisting arrest is not a death sentence or a warrant for illegal tactics. Period. Your argument is wrong.
Hmmm... I didn't know choke holds were illegal under the NYPD. Apparently they are (just looked it up). I concede, you got a point and it is a valid point.
Hmmm... I didn't know choke holds were illegal under the NYPD. Apparently they are (just looked it up). I concede, you got a point and it is a valid point.
I shouldn't use the term piggy, but the bad ones ruin it for all of them.
The term "illegal" isn't appropriate in this situation. Illegal implies criminal. No specific move is "illegal" for police officers to use when subduing a suspect. The NYPD bans the chokehold within its patrol guide. That means this officer can face administrative charges within the department for using one if this is determined to be a chokehold incident, but it is not criminal.
As it stands, the video doesn't show his hands locked together. The definition of chokehold as defined by the media and the usual racialists, cannot be used again him in court.
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