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No, but if you had read the article you'd know plenty of persons are commuting from Poconos and other parts of PA to NYC. That "extreme commute" has been seeing increasing numbers over the past decade or so as persons seek homes they can afford.
Have worked at places where people commute in from Poconos and even Scranton; you couldn't pay me enough to travel 2-3 hours *each way* five days per week.
Second people in that part of PA have watched and seen what has happened to the Poconos area with influx of "commuters" from NY, and are keen not to see that illness spread any further.
If the trend continues, PA could flip away from the populists sooner.
There was a thread about this recently. I think someone was asking if the commute was feasible. Right now it's taking between 90 and 120 minutes each way to get from Staten Island to Rockefeller center on public transportation. How these people are making it in from PA in 2 hours seems unrealistic. The stars have to completely align properly for that to happen.
I know people who have tried this way of life and were divorced within three years. It puts a tremendous strain on a family.
I used to have clients in East Greenville PA that I would see on the third shift t least once a week. When driving back I would see the 5 am commuters on the bus going down 78 and they looked miserable. It's not a good life. People think they are making some great sacrifice for their families when in reality they are slowly killing them in a long agonizing death.
I do think if enough people move up to PA they will build their own local economy that will support the people living there. PA has been a hot spot and developing for almost 20 years. Real estate is still affordable and is rapidly climbing. I am looking at property in the Dingmans Ferry area now.
NY got the short end of the stick by not geographically diversifying its employment centers.
It did! Remember NJ houses the corporate offices of pharma, chemicals, Telco, industrials and consumer products companies. These jobs even spilled over to Rockland County (Wyeth) and eastern PA. The problem is that some of these industries (notably chems and pharma) have retrenched headcount in NJ, leaving workers with fewer employment options other than the ones that naturally cluster in NYC/Manhattan. The tech sector in SV and Bay Area has had job growth, on the other hand because the industry itself is doing well and needs more employees.
By who and how? They're trying to avoid the huge prices and taxes of the closer suburbs. If anyone is getting jerked it's those closer in. But they know the deal, and chose to accept it.
Why should NJ pay to facilitate the commute of people in PA, going clear through NJ, into NYC? Transit itself is a money loser. The only reason to pay for it is to harvest the economic out put of the commuters (primarily in the form of taxes), either where they live or where they work. So this wouldn't pay for NJ.
But for NYS to get people to live upstate and commute to NYC, it makes good sense. The state would collect all the taxes, both primary (from the worker themself), and secondary, (from the taxes economic activity they create both where the live and work.) At that point the investment might be worthwhile. And by diverting population growth from out of state, to in state, they could push development upstate, where it's needed. Because if the commuting patterns rotated upstate from west into NJ, you'd likely start seeing business move upstate (to take advantage of lower costs.)
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Or exyend the NJT to scranton, which was once being thoroughly considered.
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