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No, that's the one group I don't feel all that bad for. They'll be ok. But I feel bad for the small business owners (restaurants, food/service vendors) that were expecting more customers
The morons would've seen their rents go up and gone out of business anyway.
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and for the Queensbridge residents that were looking forward to the job training programs. Amazon was going to pay for computer science programs in various, local NYC high schools. Jeesh...!
Oh please. There're already free online programs for anyone who's serious. Over half of all developers are self-taught. If you're worried about the ghetto morons not getting access to tech jobs, don't: they're not mentally up to the task, as evidenced by their perpetual laziness when it's all been just a fingertip away for over a decade now!!
This could have been handled better. A few things where Amazon stumbled:
- They made a spectacle of the HQ2 search. Is it surprising that some quarters will eventually turn their attention to some of its faults?
- Rightly or wrongly, they came across as boasting about extracting lots of tax incentives from municipalities. If their agenda was to squeeze incentives from taxpayers, they could at least have been discreet about it.
- They exaggerated the job gains. The 25k jobs would really come in 10 years but they made it sound like it would come right away. People believed them and it backfired when it sounded like infrastructure and services would be swamped.
- Bad location, bad optics. Of course the locals in LIC, in their own small view of the world, saw it as 25k new workers being dropped into their neighborhood. But when compared with NYC in its totality, it would have been only a small gain or even net job loss once you count the retrenchments happening in banking, insurance, real estate and journalism. As I had repeatedly stated, they should have discreetly acquired vacated space in Downtown/FiDi and gradually expanded like what Google is doing. 60 Wall Street is being vacated. Nearby buildings like Chase Plaza have fragile leases. Amazon doesn't need space for 25k workers right away. Why did it insist on muscling its way into LIC?
It boils down to clumsy handling by Amazon, and clumsy/incompetent handling by NYC leadership.
Google also leases space, but Amazon would have had to make a capital investment. Harder to just pick up and leave, so their would be incentive to stay. This was short sighted. This could have propped up NY's budget, but now we can suffer for principal.
Principal means nothing when others will take advantage of the weakness.
Please don't confuse your own personal wet dreams with reality.
No business thinks the way you do. It's like when politicians talk about morality or whatever...it's just a guy BS-ing a gal to get in her pants.
Are you people all girls here??? 'Cause I can't believe how everyone's falling for the romantic claptrap about "investments" and "jobs" and all that sales brochure B.S.!!!
Citi is probably getting screwed too, Amazon had promised to lease 1 Million Square Feet of the Citi Tower in LIC which Citi has been trying forever to move out of
Oh I feel soooo bad when multi-billion-dollar corporations are inconvenienced!!!
Oh I feel soooo bad when multi-billion-dollar corporations are inconvenienced!!!
You hate capitalism but fail to understand that without successful companies you don't have sources of income for workers. No profitable companies, no jobs. Have a quick google as to what's been going on in a place called Venezuela
Exactly - a privileged Upper East Sider living in private housing like you doesn't want it but the Queensbridge Housing Tenants Association (projects) and the Rev. Bishop Mitchell Taylor- a black clergyman who speaks for lots of locals in the area, avowedly DID want it and the computer job training facilities.
You and your ilk are precisely the problem here. Comfortable, privileged, and condescending to real world people.
No, the minorities are they own worst enemies (except maybe the Asians? Definitely those Jews!). Computer job training??? Do the morons not know about free A+ and Network+ and Security+ courses that NYC already offers??? How about all the non-profits already offering the same, ALL directly targeted to blacks and hispanics???
Or all the free and low-cost resources available online for the past ten-plus years?????
Most programmers are self-taught, BTW. Clearly these people with their smartphones haven't been googling "computer job training" if such B.S. impresses them about the Faustian Bargain that is Amazon!!!
Yeah. People are always complaining that there are no programs for NYCHA residents to help them out of generational poverty & to improve their station in life. And now, there's this woman (young, privileged) on NY1 saying she's happy and that "we" don't need Amazon's philanthropy. I'm not a violent person but I wanted to punch her. It sounded so condescending.
I'm not really violent either but I would love to be the executioner when the Revolution lines all you corporate shills and other idiots right up against the wall!!
Improve their way of life??? Don't these morons go to school???
Oh, what, now that the ghetto has all the black and hispanic "teachers" they've always wanted (demanded!!), they still can't be bothered???
Not even after getting easy-promotions from grade to grade???
Not even after all the in-school programs for their self-esteem connecting them to their "heritage"???
Not even when simply googling "free job training nyc" would pull up a ton of resources, many from the city itself?????
If I was amazon. Instead of building an hq in Queens. just make a 25 year lease deal with the Port Authority and and rent out one of the world Trade Center buildings. Especially since wtc sits on top of the. Path train which comments to educated work force in NJ.
Amazon wanted to be PAID to screw up local housing and transit. What part of that don't you understand?????
KK already got his, he dgaf about anyone else or the future.
Oh you mean like Bozo Bezos and Amazon????
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Or go to DC and Nashville, where the local community welcomes them with open arms and local pols are happy to work with them and jointly collaborate on various projects, from expanding infrastructure like public transportation or educating local kids in schools, etc. This is no skin off AMZN back.
No skin off NYC either. Or do you regret not offering your posterior for money???
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