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Old 12-14-2019, 11:44 PM
 
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Many American teens work. I see many teens working in stores and all sorts of places.

This kids parents failed him.
Due to labor laws, I seriously doubt many kids under 16 will work because businesses can be severely penalized, and it's not worth the paperwork.. Honestly a lot of businesses won't hire people under 18.

You really don't see teens working that much across the city, unless they are legal teens. 18 years.
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Old 12-15-2019, 12:27 AM
 
Location: Harlem, NY
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they voided the charges against the 13 year old and are looking for two 14 year olds who stabbed and choked the girl. the 13 yo, told DT’s the truth which they were able to verify through surveillance cameras
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Old 12-15-2019, 03:31 AM
 
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Snitching goes over well in the hood
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Old 12-15-2019, 03:42 AM
 
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Snitching goes over well in the hood
People snitch in the hood as much as anywhere else. They claim they're not snitches until things get real.
This 13 year old in question ratted out his friends right away
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Old 12-15-2019, 03:56 AM
 
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Millions of people listen to hip hop and death metal, screamo, and emo (which in my opinion can be more visceral and more likely to make someone kill) and don’t stab or shoot people.
True. It's not about music but about social ills.
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Old 12-15-2019, 06:25 AM
 
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Point of my post is that he'd get off easier taking the hit and going through our joke of a system than snitching on his friends. He'll have to move and even so, word travels fast.
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Old 12-15-2019, 07:37 AM
 
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This coverage would NOT happen if she was a student of Bronx Community or Hostos Community College CUNY. Must keep the Columbia/Barnard people happy. There has been conflicts between the communities for decades. Many believe he did not do it (i.e.Exhonorated five)
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Old 12-15-2019, 07:50 AM
 
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I said social justice activist and not warrior. I find the warrior aspect very offensive. In this situation. Economics and social factors are the reason why stuff like this happens. Pleased stop gas lighting

Since I am a bit older and not familiar with modern activist jargon, I had to look up "gas lighting"... apparently it means manipulating. Since somebody else on the thread mentioned "social justice warrior", I just picked it up, not realizing that it is different from activist (or somehow offensive... 75% of all words are now offensive, ie, only the activist jargon is not offensive).


So you think I am manipulating when I say that economics is not a reason for murder? Well, I came to the US 36 years ago on a student (ie, non-immigrant) visa, not eligible for any of the ample social services that the US generously offers to its own citizens including these kids and their families (more so than pretty much any other country in the world). I can guarantee you that these kids had a phone, heating and hot water - something I did not have for my first two years in the US. I remained poor for many years in the US, while getting a training, and while being very uncertain how and where I would end up. It never occurred to me to stab anyone. So, I don't accept it that the cause of this murder is economic. Social factors, yes, you are right on that one - social factors such as the culture that fully accepts and glamorizes crime, and NY laws that protect this culture. Those are contributing causes, but the direct cause of this murder is that two 14 year olds decided to kill someone, and then stabbed her many times with a knife. While a contributing cause is social, the direct and most important cause of this murder is highly personal: that two persons (of an age at which a person understands what it means to kill) decided to kill another person.


The family should sue the makers of the laws that protect violent crime in NY. The kids shouldget the maximum possible sentence.

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Old 12-15-2019, 08:32 AM
 
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Since I am a bit older and not familiar with modern activist jargon, I had to look up "gas lighting"... apparently it means manipulating. Since somebody else on the thread mentioned "social justice warrior", I just picked it up, not realizing that it is different from activist (or somehow offensive... 75% of all words are now offensive, ie, only the activist jargon is not offensive).


So you think I am manipulating when I say that economics is not a reason for murder? Well, I came to the US 36 years ago on a student (ie, non-immigrant) visa, not eligible for any of the ample social services that the US generously offers to its own citizens including these kids and their families (more so than pretty much any other country in the world). I can guarantee you that these kids had a phone, heating and hot water - something I did not have for my first two years in the US. I remained poor for many years in the US, while getting a training, and while being very uncertain how and where I would end up. It never occurred to me to stab anyone. So, I don't accept it that the cause of this murder is economic. Social factors, yes, you are right on that one - social factors such as the culture that fully accepts and glamorizes crime, and NY laws that protect this culture. Those are contributing causes, but the direct cause of this murder is that two 14 year olds decided to kill someone, and then stabbed her many times with a knife. While a contributing cause is social, the direct and most important cause of this murder is highly personal: that two persons (of an age at which a person understands what it means to kill) decided to kill another person.


The family should sue the makers of the laws that protect violent crime in NY. The kids shouldget the maximum possible sentence.
I agree with you. The family should sue the city of NY for what happened. Sadly stuff like tbis with whatever programs for the less fortunate that exist.

Last time I heard of a gruesome knife murder was with that Dominican boy in the Bronx that got jumped and knifed by a gang which made national headlines. Most nyc murder never make national headlines. Tessa may be murder is also making national headlines.
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Old 12-15-2019, 08:36 AM
 
Location: Staten Island, NY
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In this current environment, the perps will probably get a slap on the wrist.
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