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Old 02-18-2020, 05:06 AM
 
Location: NY
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Have you ever tasted rancid bacon? Bite any conservative.
Opinion:
You are entitled to your opinion. We will have a Republican in office within 3 elections as a result of the
blow the Democratic Base has dealt New York................
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Old 02-18-2020, 07:25 AM
 
Location: New York, NY
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I don't think Socialism means what you think it means. Further, I don't think her positions are "socialists". What is wrong with redirecting our hard earned tax dollars into a direction that benefits the most people rather than only the 1%? It's our money. Let's define "Late-Term" abortion. A late-term situation is when woman who expecting to carry her baby to term, who started decorating a baby room, perhaps picked out a name and is buying clothes and other stuff receives some of the most devastating news in her life and is faced with a terrible choice. So you are saying she should not get an abortion because you know better? Are you dictating that she must carry a baby to term that might not make it past a day or two, if that? A baby that might need to be institutionalized for life? A baby that might end up being in excruciating pain for life? A baby that might not be able to verbalize, communicate and ever get beyond eating and pooing? That's what late-term abortion is. Finally, no one has advocated open borders.

Everything you wrote above says you've been reading too much Brietbart. Do ya'll right wingers ever do a sanity checks and actually look up the stuff you here with full transcripts? SMH.

At the end of the day, people can do whatever they want, but I am not one of those people who think someone's life should be ended because they have a disability. My thoughts are not a dictatorship.
And you know very well that many women use abortion as a form of birth control, not because their baby is disabled - that's complete and utter BS. The real problem today is that women don't own any spiritual thought and well they just spread their legs to whomever they wish. That there is the root of the problem - a lack of morality.

And as for the 1%, they already pay more taxes than we do. Top percent of earners (with incomes of over $500K) pay about 39 percent of all income taxes. The amount of taxes paid in this percentile is nearly twice as much their adjusted gross income (AGI) load.

What are you thinking about? If the top one percent were to flee to other countries due to a heavier tax load, taxes would fall on us middle income wage earners! Look at what's happening in France for heavens sake and stop believing socialism works, because it never has and it never will!
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Old 02-18-2020, 09:40 AM
 
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At the end of the day, people can do whatever they want, but I am not one of those people who think someone's life should be ended because they have a disability. My thoughts are not a dictatorship.
And you know very well that many women use abortion as a form of birth control, not because their baby is disabled - that's complete and utter BS. The real problem today is that women don't own any spiritual thought and well they just spread their legs to whomever they wish. That there is the root of the problem - a lack of morality.

And as for the 1%, they already pay more taxes than we do. Top percent of earners (with incomes of over $500K) pay about 39 percent of all income taxes. The amount of taxes paid in this percentile is nearly twice as much their adjusted gross income (AGI) load.

What are you thinking about? If the top one percent were to flee to other countries due to a heavier tax load, taxes would fall on us middle income wage earners! Look at what's happening in France for heavens sake and stop believing socialism works, because it never has and it never will!
The discussion wasn't on abortion, it was on LATE TERM abortion, which has been advocated by no one. As for abortion as a form of birth control, you need to get a reality check really badly. Let's see, a condom or a surgical procedure? Let me see.... Further, women of low morals, as if you were elected to judge other's morals, don't have abortions, they have lots of babies that you right wingers then bleat about having to support. I'm also loving putting all onus on women either way.

As for the 1% paying the most taxes, it's certainly not hurting their bottom line as they still have the most money, while a lot of the rest of the country is having trouble keeping a roof over their heads, getting medical care or even crappy coverage, and eating. This is what happens when govt programs favor developers, drug companies, insurance companies, and banks over the rest of the population. If the 99% fled to other countries, who would the 1% milk for money?
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Old 02-18-2020, 10:08 AM
 
Location: New York, NY
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The discussion wasn't on abortion, it was on LATE TERM abortion, which has been advocated by no one. As for abortion as a form of birth control, you need to get a reality check really badly. Let's see, a condom or a surgical procedure? Let me see.... Further, women of low morals, as if you were elected to judge other's morals, don't have abortions, they have lots of babies that you right wingers then bleat about having to support. I'm also loving putting all onus on women either way.

As for the 1% paying the most taxes, it's certainly not hurting their bottom line as they still have the most money, while a lot of the rest of the country is having trouble keeping a roof over their heads, getting medical care or even crappy coverage, and eating. This is what happens when govt programs favor developers, drug companies, insurance companies, and banks over the rest of the population. If the 99% fled to other countries, who would the 1% milk for money?

I'm getting my information from planned parenthood. Late term abortions have been advocated and passed right here in New York State.

I'm not a moral judge, but damn girl, keep your legs closed. I mean, how hard can it be? I was married to man for 12 years and never had a baby because I didn't feel as if I could afford him or her. I adequately planned and never used the brutality of abortion. It's only a matter of self control and instant gratification that people today without discipline don't seem to have. But oh well, not everyone thinks before they do and that is something that has confused me since day one.

Question for you: Would you prefer the 1% pay 40% of all taxes or would you prefer (assuming you're middle class) to pay 40% of all taxes yourself?
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Old 02-18-2020, 06:31 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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I moved out of NY to Biden's home state of Delaware.
Knowing what I know now and seeing what I see here, I wouldn't vote for Biden if he
was running against a nest of vipers. We have low, low taxes here (for now), but a
mega homeless problem, major drugs issues, a number of sex offenders per capita
that's off the charts, and a LOT, oh a whole lot, of very bad political decisions that
are going to cost big big time in the coming decades. Minimum wage here is $8.75,
you can wait 4 months for a doctor's appointment because there's a shortage of them
- I could go on, but you get the picture.
i do. Sorry...
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Old 02-18-2020, 08:04 PM
 
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I'm getting my information from planned parenthood. Late term abortions have been advocated and passed right here in New York State.

I'm not a moral judge, but damn girl, keep your legs closed. I mean, how hard can it be? I was married to man for 12 years and never had a baby because I didn't feel as if I could afford him or her. I adequately planned and never used the brutality of abortion. It's only a matter of self control and instant gratification that people today without discipline don't seem to have. But oh well, not everyone thinks before they do and that is something that has confused me since day one.

Question for you: Would you prefer the 1% pay 40% of all taxes or would you prefer (assuming you're middle class) to pay 40% of all taxes yourself?
Late term abortion is a misnomer. I know someone who had one - someone married, pregnant by her husband of many years, and happy to be having an unexpected late baby. At least until they - never mind, but she wouldn't advocate the procedure. Pray you never have to be in that position.

Response for you: I would prefer there were no 1%. Since there is, and they have 90% of the money, they should pay 90% of the taxes.
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Old 02-19-2020, 10:05 AM
 
Location: New York, NY
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Late term abortion is a misnomer. I know someone who had one - someone married, pregnant by her husband of many years, and happy to be having an unexpected late baby. At least until they - never mind, but she wouldn't advocate the procedure. Pray you never have to be in that position.

Response for you: I would prefer there were no 1%. Since there is, and they have 90% of the money, they should pay 90% of the taxes.

In France, the wealthy was taxed 90% of all taxes but they winded up leaving the country because they can actually afford to live somewhere else without having to pay as much. (Other western countries will take the wealthy with open arms). So 90% of taxes in France fell on the middle class.

This is the problem with socialism, and people who advocate for it don't understand what they are asking for.

It's like your boss calling you in the office and telling you, "The cleaning guy is not making 100K like you are, so we will have to cut your salary and pay you 50K so he can also make as much"

Given the above scenario, what would you personally do? Like the wealthy, you'd get the heck out of dodge and look for another job!

And another thing: Who would become an engineer, doctor or try to invent the fountain of youth per se, if there are no incentives? If pay will be equal across the board through taxation, everyone would take the easiest job - leaving engineering, technology and medicine in the dust.
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Old 02-19-2020, 04:22 PM
 
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The 2020 Democrats are screwed. Too many factions based on certain lines of democraphics and thoughts. Here in NYC Biden will do well with the Black Americans who traditional vote democrat, and to a lesser extent some white liberals. Than you have Bloomberg, wealthy liberals and non woke liberals will vote for Bloomberg. Expect the Upper West Side of Manhattan to vote for Bloomberg. Than you have Bernie, expect low income New Yorkers and to a lesser exent some woke folks to vote for him.

Yesterday we did a podcast on youtube talking about this subject. Due to the democrat party being divided up into 3 fations of moderates, progrossives and wokes. All three factions hate each other, but will also scare away mainline liberals and independents who will either vote Trump or 3rd party.
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Old 02-19-2020, 04:43 PM
 
Location: Montreal
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I think Hunter Biden should run for President. Hunter's a good name to have when you have your finger on the button.
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Old 02-19-2020, 05:09 PM
 
Location: New York, NY
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The 2020 Democrats are screwed. Too many factions based on certain lines of democraphics and thoughts. Here in NYC Biden will do well with the Black Americans who traditional vote democrat, and to a lesser extent some white liberals. Than you have Bloomberg, wealthy liberals and non woke liberals will vote for Bloomberg. Expect the Upper West Side of Manhattan to vote for Bloomberg. Than you have Bernie, expect low income New Yorkers and to a lesser exent some woke folks to vote for him.

Yesterday we did a podcast on youtube talking about this subject. Due to the democrat party being divided up into 3 fations of moderates, progrossives and wokes. All three factions hate each other, but will also scare away mainline liberals and independents who will either vote Trump or 3rd party.
This sounds very interesting. But what is “woke?”
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