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Old 01-11-2017, 02:49 PM
 
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I'm still not getting what the dire insult is---the compliment is that the guest in OP wanted the company of the host. It wasn't just a free meal she was after or a perfectly planned and executed meal. It is not an insult, even if OP was a world-renowned chef. I think it may have been Brigham Young who said:

“He who takes offense when no offense is intended is a fool, and he who takes offense when offense is intended is a greater fool.”
I think ABSOLUTELY that a world renowned chef would take great offense if someone brought their own food to his dinner!!! (Great chefs don't cater to vegans, vegetarians, people with food preferences or intolerances or allergies). They are into cooking fabulous food!

And to not take offense when offense IS INTENDED is self-deprecating to the extreme.

 
Old 01-11-2017, 03:04 PM
 
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The shadow doesn't say anywhere in his/her post that he explained to the host that he couldn't eat cheese. Perhaps he was a little aggressive in his determination to attend and to have what he wanted to eat. Just because someone has an allergy or food intolerance, it doesn't give them the right to change the menu or to bring their own food. They should simply decline the invitation. It's the polite thing to do.
That's crazy...I would much rather my niece bring something her child can eat then simply not come. Why in earth should they have to decline invitations with their own family (as is the case with OP) due to this?

OP has complained about this person aside from the soup...I'm in agreement with those who say OP just doesn't like this person but had to invite her, so was looking for a reason to be offended. I mean, why add that the soup was watery and awful etc? Sounds like she really wants to pound down this woman and is determined to.
 
Old 01-11-2017, 03:05 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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...(Great chefs don't cater to vegans, vegetarians, people with food preferences or intolerances or allergies). They are into cooking fabulous food!
That is a load of crap. I've been to many fine dining restaurants, and have almost always been asked about allergies, or it is notated on the menu. I often see chef's tasting menus offered in a vegetarian version as well.

Great chef's are into cooking fabulous food, not in killing their guests. You seriously think chef's are offended to find out someone has a shellfish allergy?
 
Old 01-11-2017, 03:13 PM
 
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I think ABSOLUTELY that a world renowned chef would take great offense if someone brought their own food to his dinner!!! (Great chefs don't cater to vegans, vegetarians, people with food preferences or intolerances or allergies). They are into cooking fabulous food!

And to not take offense when offense IS INTENDED is self-deprecating to the extreme.
While it is true that the famous, chefs don't cater to vegans, a la Anthony Bourdain, I don't agree that "cooking fabulous food" would exclude vegan or gluten-free food or any other category. I cook and eat some fabulous food. People like Anthony Bourdain are temperamental, egotistical showmen. Most of us haven't even eaten their food, so we don't even know how fabulous it is or whether we could identify the world-renowned chef's cooking in a blind taste (wasn't there a TV show contest that pitted home cooks against professional chefs? Not that you can believe everything on reality TV/game shows, but often the home chefs cooking was preferred).

And the taking offense doesn't mean that you don't recognize that the other person meant to insult/offend you. I interpret more like what is said about forgiveness---it's not that you will forget or even that you have to continue to associate with the other person---it's just that you move on from the anger....for your sake, not the other person's (although of course it makes for a better world all around with less anger being expressed and maybe eventually, felt).
 
Old 01-11-2017, 03:42 PM
 
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That is a load of crap. I've been to many fine dining restaurants, and have almost always been asked about allergies, or it is notated on the menu. I often see chef's tasting menus offered in a vegetarian version as well.

Great chef's are into cooking fabulous food, not in killing their guests. You seriously think chef's are offended to find out someone has a shellfish allergy?
We have been discussing diinner parties at someone's home, NOT restaurants which offer gluten-free, etc. Do you seriously think a world-renowned chef would take kindly to some guest bringing their own food to his home? Get real!
 
Old 01-11-2017, 04:22 PM
 
Location: Denver 'burbs
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We have been discussing diinner parties at someone's home, NOT restaurants which offer gluten-free, etc. Do you seriously think a world-renowned chef would take kindly to some guest bringing their own food to his home? Get real!
I think we can stop calling this a "dinner party". The OP had family over for soup. Nothing wrong with that. I enjpy soup as well as family get togethers. But I would never describe it as a dinner party.
 
Old 01-11-2017, 04:29 PM
 
Location: New Yawk
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The shadow doesn't say anywhere in his/her post that he explained to the host that he couldn't eat cheese. Perhaps he was a little aggressive in his determination to attend and to have what he wanted to eat. Just because someone has an allergy or food intolerance, it doesn't give them the right to change the menu or to bring their own food. They should simply decline the invitation. It's the polite thing to do.
I don't know about it being the polite thing to do; as a host, my feelings would be quite hurt if someone declined a dinner invite because of the menu. I am more than happy to either prepare something they can have, or plan on them bringing a dish if they'd prefer. That may not be what "great chefs" do, but it sure is what good hosts do. Just this past Christmas, I made all of the desserts diabetic-friendly because my mother-in-law was recently diagnosed; I'd be crushed if she either stayed home or had to sit there watching everyone else enjoy dessert while she can't.
 
Old 01-11-2017, 05:48 PM
 
Location: North Oakland
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Just this past Christmas, I made all of the desserts diabetic-friendly because my mother-in-law was recently diagnosed; I'd be crushed if she either stayed home or had to sit there watching everyone else enjoy dessert while she can't.
What did you serve?
 
Old 01-11-2017, 06:08 PM
 
Location: Denver 'burbs
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I don't know about it being the polite thing to do; as a host, my feelings would be quite hurt if someone declined a dinner invite because of the menu. I am more than happy to either prepare something they can have, or plan on them bringing a dish if they'd prefer. That may not be what "great chefs" do, but it sure is what good hosts do. Just this past Christmas, I made all of the desserts diabetic-friendly because my mother-in-law was recently diagnosed; I'd be crushed if she either stayed home or had to sit there watching everyone else enjoy dessert while she can't.


Yes, when entertaining in my home, it's about the people. The food can be adjusted.
 
Old 01-11-2017, 06:13 PM
 
Location: New Yawk
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What did you serve?
"Sugar" cookies made with almond flour and Splenda, sugar-free flourless chocolate cake, and canoli parfait
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