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Actually poor people do have limited options when it comes to spending money, especially on things that are not necessities. I believe that a vacation counts.
And staying with family and using their utilities so that they do not have to use their own? That's freeloading especially when you add in all of the other behavior mentioned by the OP.
I don't consider the extra day a vacation day so it is not wasted by doing laundry. It is a day to get back into the swing of things so that the rest of my week runs smoothly.
EXACTLY...... time to recover from travel and get things in order for going back to work.....
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LOL. You didn't think you would have to explain this, why?
So poor people should never have a vacation because, oh yeah, they are poor. Shame on them for working hard and actually needing the EXACT same break that those rich people need.
Not freeloading when you stay with family. If the family is so cheap that they can't allow a son and his family to do laundry before they leave, then maybe they shouldn't allow those "freeloaders" to come stay with them. Great way to keep family close and loving, huh?
You might not think the extra day of vacation as wasted time. You might get a lot more vacation than the average worker. Many, if not most, only get two weeks a year, at least to start. So if you take an extra day, you've lost the opportunity to take another one week vacation that year. Of course, if you are poor, apparently you shouldn't be taking a vacation anyways...
I am not what one would consider poor, but also not rich by any stretch of the imagination, so for the past few years, my time away from work has been spent on staycations.....
I think were talking more about cheek here.. or nerve... it wouldnt bother me if they did do a washing as I wouldnt mind..but for sheer cheek heres a true story of how one neighbour I used to have tried it on..hahaha seems funny now but my hair stood on end with temper on the day..
Young married man lived downstairs, never worked, didnt want to , and on benefits but kept producing more children, he had four and was only in his early 20s.. a lazy so and so of a man.. although I liked his wife.. and felt sorry for her.... One morning while I was ready to leave for work he appeared at my door... this was his words...
"would it be ok if I did a washing in your machine ours is broken"....My eyes widened with his cheek and I said. "no you cant, think of the electricity you d be using"......"NO NO" he said " you dont understand..... Ill take your machine down to my house and use it".........how I held in my laugh I dont know.. it was an old twin tub machine that just plugged into the wall...so not plumbed in... way back in the 70s.. I looked at him for a few seconds in disbelief. and said... " so your going to carry a big twin tub washing machine down two flights of stairs"............"NAH dont be silly, your gonny help me "..... I almost exploded at the cheek of this man.... and when I had to say to move from my door as I would be late for my work.... he wasnt pleased..... and some think they have problems with a washing hahahahah. have to laugh now years later...
Vacation has costs associated with it. Gas or plane tickets. Food on the way. Entertainment while you are there. Of course, by your logic, they are with family so I guess the entertainment is free because the family pays for everything?
If you can only afford a week's worth of clothes and have to take all of your clothes when you leave - which is what I was actually addressing - why are you spending disposable income on things that are not necessities?
And family members can freeload, in fact they do so more than anyone. The "It's not freeloading if it is family" attitude is the very attitude that allows freeloading.
The OP has made it obvious by now that this guy is a mooch so I don't know what you are arguing about.
And yes I get way more than 2 weeks vacation.
I didn't see anyone but you imply that they could only afford a weeks' worth of clothing, then state that they shouldn't going on vacation if that was the case.
I don't think I ever implied that the family would pay for everything. In my poorer days, we traveled to visit family. We didn't have "entertainment" expenses because we either went to parks or visited other family in the area. Yes, food is needed, but it's needed in every day life, too. That's what coolers are for. We would also buy groceries when we arrived to our destination. So the main expense was gas. We drove a Ford Escort wagon, stick shift, back then. Not much in the way of additional gas cost. Thank goodness our family members invited us to stay with them and understood that we didn't have a lot of extra money at that time of our lives. We worked extremely hard in very physical jobs, we deserved a vacation just as much as the white collar joe who sat at a desk 40 hours a week.
There appears to be an underlying issue, beyond the OP's feeling that the step son is a freeloader. At least from what I am inferring.
I didn't see anyone but you imply that they could only afford a weeks' worth of clothing, then state that they shouldn't going on vacation if that was the case.
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That is called an opinion - which I am entitled to have. My opinion on 'poor people' (and you were the first to use those words) obviously struck a nerve. I won't apologize because that is your issue.
As to the week's worth of clothing, did you miss these posts - I believe that I quoted at least of them.
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I don't get the people that say they need clean clothes for work or school when they get home. Who in the hell takes ALL of their clothes when they travel? Even if you are going on an around the world 60 day cruise you should have something clean left in the closet and dresser. How many people wear the same type of clothes to work as they wear on vacation anyway?
Put me in the group that has no overnight guests unless we share a bed.
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This is what I was going to say. I can't imagine not having at least 1 clean outfit left at home. My work clothes and vacation clothes do not overlap, and I've never packed all of my underwear for a trip. If I haven't scheduled an extra day off after the trip, the laundry will sit until the following weekend, most likely.
I'm not sure I understand what the problem is with carrying dirty laundry home in your suitcases. Frankly, my dirty laundry from traveling isn't very dirty. I put the underwear in a plastic bag - and what on earth is the problem with the rest? Unless some people REALLY get their clothes dirty when they wear them. Mine usually look pretty good still.
I would never put a hostess out by asking to do laundry - it's bad enough she had to furnish sheets and towels (and wash them when I left for home), watch me sit in her favorite chair (probably) and have to make conversation for 2 days running when she'd probably rather not. She probably made sure there was plenty of breakfast stuff and goodies for when we stayed in evenings. She probably spent a few days thinking up things for us all to do.
The least I could do was give them a meal or two out, and I certainly wouldn't ask to use their laundry facilities.
I'm not sure I understand what the problem is with carrying dirty laundry home in your suitcases. Frankly, my dirty laundry from traveling isn't very dirty. I put the underwear in a plastic bag - and what on earth is the problem with the rest? Unless some people REALLY get their clothes dirty when they wear them. Mine usually look pretty good still.
I would never put a hostess out by asking to do laundry - it's bad enough she had to furnish sheets and towels (and wash them when I left for home), watch me sit in her favorite chair (probably) and have to make conversation for 2 days running when she'd probably rather not. She probably made sure there was plenty of breakfast stuff and goodies for when we stayed in evenings. She probably spent a few days thinking up things for us all to do.
The least I could do was give them a meal or two out, and I certainly wouldn't ask to use their laundry facilities.
Thank you.
I have a large mesh laundry bag and put the 'dirty' clothes in there. I also put my underwear in a plastic bag lol. I don't get the big deal, either but to each their own I guess.
That is called an opinion - which I am entitled to have. My opinion on 'poor people' (and you were the first to use those words) obviously struck a nerve. I won't apologize because that is your issue.
As to the week's worth of clothing, did you miss these posts - I believe that I quoted at least of them.
Ok, I'm retired, so have lots of time on my hands and just had to go check the posts. Only one person said anything about " may not" have clothes and it just took off from there.
" Have you ever traveled with a week's worth of laundry for a family of 3 or 4, all of whom may need fresh clothes to go back to school/work the next day? The last thing I'd want to do after getting home from a day or two of traveling is several loads of laundry."
I'm not sure I understand what the problem is with carrying dirty laundry home in your suitcases. Frankly, my dirty laundry from traveling isn't very dirty. I put the underwear in a plastic bag - and what on earth is the problem with the rest? Unless some people REALLY get their clothes dirty when they wear them. Mine usually look pretty good still.
I would never put a hostess out by asking to do laundry - it's bad enough she had to furnish sheets and towels (and wash them when I left for home), watch me sit in her favorite chair (probably) and have to make conversation for 2 days running when she'd probably rather not. She probably made sure there was plenty of breakfast stuff and goodies for when we stayed in evenings. She probably spent a few days thinking up things for us all to do.
The least I could do was give them a meal or two out, and I certainly wouldn't ask to use their laundry facilities.
Then why even let them stay. Lie and say they will be out of town.
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