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Old 02-24-2018, 09:19 PM
 
Location: PNW
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I have major issues with the Catholic Church and I won’t step foot in one. My friend is mad at me because I told her I cannot come to the ceremony. I told her I would like to attend the reception. Now she doesn’t want to come at all. Which is fine. It’s her day.

Is it necessary to go to the ceremony?
I really don't want to read 8 pages of posts, so I'm likely to write something that's already mentioned.

But does your friend know about your reasons towards the church? If not, she may understand your stand a little better. As it is, based on your post, I cannot blame her. But it's hard to go against a personal conviction when it involves others to consider.

This is just a wedding. You do not have to participate in anything, and the priest conducting the ceremony is likely not at all like the one that traumatized your family. I'm a jack-Catholic, and I had to attend the rosary and church service for a family funeral. I was close to this person, and it wouldn't have been worth the damage done with family had I not gone.

 
Old 02-24-2018, 10:02 PM
 
Location: Wasilla, AK
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You cannot blame all catholics for the actions of one priest.
It's a lot more than one priest. The catholic church sent all their pedophile priests to Alaska, where they raped their way across the entire state. The death toll, especially among Alaska Natives, from alcoholism and suicide is staggering, largely due to these rapist priests. The Fairbanks unit has already been bankrupted due to all the lawsuits. I hope the others go bankrupt as well. The catholic church has become nothing more than a blight on humanity, especially in Alaska.
 
Old 02-24-2018, 10:12 PM
 
Location: Elsewhere
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So you can show up for the free food and drink but can't watch your friend get married?

It's not about YOU.

Lot's of people have issues with religion and churches, but those who aren't self absorbed put them aside for their friend or family.

If her mother died would you have said "sorry can't make your mom's funeral and be there for you, I have issues with the Catholic church"....sigh.

She already told you to stay away. I don't think you will have to worry about this friend anymore anyway.
Thank you.

When I got married, my now-ex-husband's friend took him aside and said "I would love to attend your wedding (which was in my childhood Protestant church, and my husband was a divorced Catholic) but I cannot in good conscience attend a Protestant wedding."

He was a ridiculous stereotype of an Irish-Catholic drunk, a bar owner, and a few years after my wedding he fathered a child with one of his barmaids, yea though he had a wife and three kids and was Mr. Catholic.

Lost his bar to the bookies after that.

But he had no problem showing up at the reception paid for by my Protestant parents and ate and drank himself stupid.
 
Old 02-24-2018, 10:16 PM
 
Location: Elsewhere
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It's a lot more than one priest. The catholic church sent all their pedophile priests to Alaska, where they raped their way across the entire state. The death toll, especially among Alaska Natives, from alcoholism and suicide is staggering, largely due to these rapist priests. The Fairbanks unit has already been bankrupted due to all the lawsuits. I hope the others go bankrupt as well. The catholic church has become nothing more than a blight on humanity, especially in Alaska.
I never knew that about Alaska, and if it's true, it's horrifying.

Fewer than one percent of Catholic priests were pedophiles, yet the cover-up will long remain a blight on the RCC.

I believe you about Alaska, because it makes sense. Another mistreatment of indigenous people who long have had no voice.
 
Old 02-24-2018, 10:28 PM
 
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Ah, wrong thread?
Yep, sorry! Can't delete anymore...
 
Old 02-24-2018, 10:33 PM
 
Location: Texas
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I have major issues with the Catholic Church and I won’t step foot in one. My friend is mad at me because I told her I cannot come to the ceremony. I told her I would like to attend the reception. Now she doesn’t want to come at all. Which is fine. It’s her day.

Is it necessary to go to the ceremony?
Walking into the church doesn't mean you support their religion.


I'd probably reconsider a friendship with someone who wouldn't attend my wedding or tried to make drama over my choice of wedding venue.
 
Old 02-24-2018, 11:43 PM
 
Location: Raleigh
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My brother was molested by a priest and then the church try to pay off my parents to keep quiet. That’s what this is about. And I’m not going to go.
Okay. Valid. But why do you have any Catholic friends without berating them constantly about allowing that?
 
Old 02-25-2018, 02:43 AM
 
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I have major issues with the Catholic Church and I won’t step foot in one. My friend is mad at me because I told her I cannot come to the ceremony. I told her I would like to attend the reception. Now she doesn’t want to come at all. Which is fine. It’s her day.

Is it necessary to go to the ceremony?
Obviously for your friend it is.
 
Old 02-25-2018, 04:39 AM
 
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It's a lot more than one priest. The catholic church sent all their pedophile priests to Alaska, where they raped their way across the entire state. The death toll, especially among Alaska Natives, from alcoholism and suicide is staggering, largely due to these rapist priests. The Fairbanks unit has already been bankrupted due to all the lawsuits. I hope the others go bankrupt as well. The catholic church has become nothing more than a blight on humanity, especially in Alaska.
I always learn something from CD. Erik, thanks for opening up my eyes about this. I'd never heard of it. ( It seems priests were also sent to other out of the way places to get rid of them, like Montana reservations, where the abuse also happened).

Sex Abuse in Alaska Church

Yup, it would be impossible for me to support the Catholic church, although I don't see that attending the wedding is supporting the church so much as supporting a friend. If I felt I would be complicit in all the abuse the church has done and condoned/hid for so many years (hopefully still isn't doing), I would just say I was busy.
 
Old 02-25-2018, 05:29 AM
 
Location: Where the sun likes to shine!!
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It's a lot more than one priest. The catholic church sent all their pedophile priests to Alaska, where they raped their way across the entire state. The death toll, especially among Alaska Natives, from alcoholism and suicide is staggering, largely due to these rapist priests. The Fairbanks unit has already been bankrupted due to all the lawsuits. I hope the others go bankrupt as well. The catholic church has become nothing more than a blight on humanity, especially in Alaska.
That is terrible. My heart always breaks for those who are mistreated by people who are supposed to be the most trustworthy.


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I always learn something from CD. Erik, thanks for opening up my eyes about this. I'd never heard of it. ( It seems priests were also sent to other out of the way places to get rid of them, like Montana reservations, where the abuse also happened).

Sex Abuse in Alaska Church

Yup, it would be impossible for me to support the Catholic church, although I don't see that attending the wedding is supporting the church so much as supporting a friend. If I felt I would be complicit in all the abuse the church has done and condoned/hid for so many years (hopefully still isn't doing), I would just say I was busy.
Thank you for the link.
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