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I know I've sort of dealt with it before a long time ago so I won't be doing any heroic measures, letting him crash on my couch, or any of that. I had just thought maybe maybe before it takes over his life..........he isn't there yet.
He still has his job. He's getting a cash car. He's still in the game to my mind.
Someone said he isn't smart but he is. I know whether someone is smart by how they hold a conversation, what they talk about. I never saw him high before. I feel like it can't have it's teeth all the way in.
Some people can go to oxford or have a PhD and not be smart. I highly doubt anything you say would convince him to go to rehab.
He's not "smart," he's making very poor life choices.
He's a "nice guy" doing ICE, meth, whatever. Go far enough down that hole, he'll be committing petty burglary and ripping off mail for a couple hundred bucks here and there, and have a rap sheet twenty pages long in the next same number of years. A problem plaguing Seattle right now...the burglary part. The meth heads hang out with bums and vagrants, they melt right in and the weakling City Hall won't let the cops go in and make mass arrests. The cops are not weak here...far from it, they're head busters...but City Hall will have none of it.
Some people can go to oxford or have a PhD and not be smart. I highly doubt anything you say would convince him to go to rehab.
Well, I can try. I am not going to be inboxing him all the time about it. I just tossed it out there today like hey it's messing with your mind and your goals maybe go check out a rehab. Lots of state/federal programs. He was SO PROUD to be in school. So dedicated to never missing.
Maybe when he doesn't have a place to sleep! Anyway, I know. That is why the title says stupid question. Whatever convinces people to go to rehab, it isn't a friend that isn't even a really close friend for a long time.
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What I was mainly thinking is that he doesn't seem in deep yet? More recreational. And therefore easier to quit.
I'm just upset. I didn't know this about him. I knew it about his brother, but this guy had a car and a job and school and no reason to think drugs. Until he lost stuff and I just directly asked.
He was dedicated. Work in the day, school at night and then study. That was only a few months ago.
Listen, if he's already lost his car, misses work, doesn't go to school any more, and has no place to sleep, his drug use is not recreational, he IS HOOKED on drugs.
NOTHING, absolutely NOTHING will get him off drugs but his own will to do it. When/if he ever decides to go to rehab, chances are (like MANY addicts) that he will leave and do drugs again.
So many on here have said he isn't smart. They could be very wrong. Intelligence has NOTHING to do with addiction. Addiction does. Even doctors lawyers and every other walk of life can get addicted.
He thought I was suggesting that drugs are where his money is going and corrected me on that. No response to my reply explaining I am talking about messing with his mind when he does have money to buy them. I really don't know him well enough to be getting in his business. It's surprising he even answered honestly when I first asked about drugs.
Listen, if he's already lost his car, misses work, doesn't go to school any more, and has no place to sleep, his drug use is not recreational, he IS HOOKED on drugs.
NOTHING, absolutely NOTHING will get him off drugs but his own will to do it. When/if he ever decides to go to rehab, chances are (like MANY addicts) that he will leave and do drugs again.
So many on here have said he isn't smart. They could be very wrong. Intelligence has NOTHING to do with addiction. Addiction does. Even doctors lawyers and every other walk of life can get addicted.
It's awful. I honestly should have known before. We have a mutual 'friend' that literally smoked his inheritance away. His brother uses 'ICE' (I am not used to that term yet for meth). But my friend, sigh, he just acted different. I was naive. Birds of a feather.
He had all his ish together I guess is why I thought he wasn't into anything.
I'm still going to chat with him on facebook (I don't text). It cannot hurt to every now and then suggest rehab. When he brings up school maybe or something.
Maybe toss in the info about destroying dopamine receptors. The longer this goes on, the more ****ed his brain will get.
Maybe ask him do you want to end up like (mutual friend)?
....... I really don't know him well enough to be getting in his business.....
This ^ ...... Say that again to yourself repeatedly.
So get out of his business, stop being a busy-body and mind your own business. Your concerns are misplaced and are messing with your own mind giving you aspirations of being some kind of savior to a relative stranger by persuading him to go to rehab. Just leave the guy alone.
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So many on here have said he isn't smart. They could be very wrong. Intelligence has NOTHING to do with addiction. Addiction does. Even doctors lawyers and every other walk of life can get addicted.
This ^ ...... Say that again to yourself repeatedly.
So get out of his business, stop being a busy-body and mind your own business. Your concerns are misplaced and are messing with your own mind giving you aspirations of being some kind of savior to a relative stranger by persuading him to go to rehab. Just leave the guy alone.
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He's not a stranger, but yeah I get it. As I said above if we keep chatting I will see times to maybe say something. I don't see myself as a savior at all, certainly not aspiring to that. But a friend tries to help!
This guy is an absolute zero. From reading your posts, it seems like you like to collect losers for "friends."
Get rid of people who are destroying themselves from your circle. You cannot help them. They will do nothing but wear you out and draw you into their abyss.
You really need to examine why you want to associate with such people.
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