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Originally Posted by Mutiny77
The criteria seems to get narrower and narrower...
And I wouldn't try to claim anything that's connected to the Mummers Parade myself.
I added additional information. Think whatever you want & just keep arguing the point if it makes you feel good. I said it's both. Another poster in my age group who is a native posted that that's what she was taught - in North Carolina. Other NC natives in my age group have posted the same in the past. Locally, natives have made comments to that effect, in real life. I'm sticking with my opinion, which matches what I was taught. It's both.
I added additional information. Think whatever you want & just keep arguing the point if it makes you feel good. I said it's both. Another poster in my age group who is a native posted that that's what she was taught - in North Carolina. Other NC natives in my age group have posted the same in the past. Locally, natives have made comments to that effect, in real life. I'm sticking with my opinion, which matches what I was taught. It's both.
Seems like a few people in your generation were the only people who were taught that, which is interesting since DC/Baltimore/Virginia's inclusion in the mid-Atlantic is relatively recent thing itself. Nobody in my generation (early Gen X/late Gen Y) seems to have been taught that.
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Originally Posted by poppydog
I think I'm just about your generation southbound and I was never taught that either.
Well, the frosting on the cake, which I usually don't bring up is that I was taught that NYC is in a category of it's own, & was not included in the MidAtlantic. Of all of the years that I lived in South Jersey, I tend to agree with that too. I see similarities between Philadelphia & points south, not with NYC, other than being big old cities.
i've never learned NC as midatlantic i've learned there was the south and "deep south" which i guess is the same thing ??
Nah, the Deep South is typically contrasted with the Upper South. The Deep South states would be LA, MS, AL, GA, SC, and FL while the Upper South states would be VA, NC, TN, KY, etc. The Deep South is also defined as the lower part of the Black Belt region that stretches from eastern TX eastward and would include southeastern AR, western TX, northern FL, and a wide swath of eastern NC.
After living in the west, California, I spent decades in the nawth. Massachusetts. We decided we wanted to move to the mid Atlantic and chose NC. NC was on our "mid" Atlantic radar, because we took out a map and divided the east coast into three sections and NC was in the middle section.
After living in the west, California, I spent decades in the nawth. Massachusetts. We decided we wanted to move to the mid Atlantic and chose NC. NC was on our "mid" Atlantic radar, because we took out a map and divided the east coast into three sections and NC was in the middle section.
That's not really how the mid-Atlantic is defined, but cool.
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Originally Posted by hey_guy
i've never learned NC as midatlantic i've learned there was the south and "deep south" which i guess is the same thing ??
Maybe. I was taught that Kentucky was an overlapping area as well. . .the South & the Midwest.
Keep in mind that, historically, it's all mud. There were still a handful of slaves in NJ at the time of the Civil War. They were renamed apprentice for life. They were still slaves by another name. The NJ legislature debated joining the Confederacy but didn't because Delaware had no interest in seceding.
There were segregated schools in South Jersey until about WWII. There was nothing magical about the Mason-Dixon line.
Yes, NC was a big tobacco producer, but one of my ancestors grew tobacco in Maryland & part of the disputed area of Maryland/Pennsylvania, before the Mason - Dixon line.
Virginia & NC made provisions for Quakers during the Civil War. Our State magazine had an article about a group that was actively working against the Confederacy.
I, as a NC native, was always taught in school, family, everywhere, that NC is in the South. There was no debate.
I have found people though (no offense but mostly liberal leaning people) that prefer to be "mid-Atlantic" to the "South" as they see as being in the South as 'beneath them'.
I also have family in Georgia (Atlanta) and no kidding there are transplants from up north that refuse to admit they are living in the South and even though they live in Atlanta they think they live in some "geographical purgatory" it seems.
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