Quick Poll: Who will you vote for in the Presidential election? (Cleveland: crimes, unemployment rate)

[ZnGuy]

Originally Posted by bjimmy24

I still don't get the correlation between hosting the Olympics and RUNNING THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

gotta be more job experience than a community organizer

[hensleya1]

Originally Posted by bjimmy24

I still don't get the correlation between hosting the Olympics and RUNNING THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

Hi bjimmy24--

I'm not voting for R-money but I can pretty clearly say that turning around an Olympics that was headed for disaster and then executive experience (time as governor) is far more experience than being a freshman senator from Illinois who got elected because all the opposition collapsed around him.

[BajanYankee]

Originally Posted by Brandonep

Taxing the rich more will not help the economy at all. All it would do is send jobs overseas and decrease incentive to make more money, also, if your employer has less money why exactly would you be getting more money? It would effectively hurt the economy and slow recovery. Romney wants to cut taxes for the middle class...

If "fixing" the economy were as easy as giving the money to the "Job Creators," don't you think Obama would have done that by now? I mean, he could cut taxes (the politically popular thing to do - who really ever opposes a tax cut?), ignite economic growth (makes everyone happy), and guarantee himself an easy road to re-election. It's a Win-Win-Win situation! It's kind of like the workout plan where you can sit on the couch all day eating ice cream while watching Maury Povich and still burn calories!

The "job creators" don't need more cash. In fact, they are collectively sitting on about $5 trillion of it.

The $5 Trillion Stash: U.S. Corporations' Money Hoard Is Bigger Than the GDP of Germany - Jordan Weissmann - The Atlantic

Companies Sit On Cash; Reluctant To Invest, Hire : NPR

Companies Sitting on More Cash Than Ever - Yahoo! Finance

Big Georgia companies sitting on billions in cash | www.ajc.com

Corporations Sitting On A Record Amount Of Cash | ThinkProgress

Martin Sorrell of WPP Group thinks companies need to get spending - WSJ.com

So the "job creators" are already sitting on trillions of dollars, and you think that the next $300 billion or so is going to provide the extra nudge to start turning that cash into jobs? Okay, man. A lot of companies are reluctant to hire more people because they are finding ways to be "leaner" (i.e., less labor). Adding more labor means less cash for Porsches, yachts, summer homes and mistresses, and that's never good for a CEO's bottom line.

So it's pretty clear that companies are not going to hire en masse, particularly in wake of the IMF's Global Economic Outlook report, which basically says that Europe is on the brink of a major recession (and could pull the U.S. back into recession along with it).

[bjimmy24]

Originally Posted by hensleya1

Hi bjimmy24--

I'm not voting for R-money but I can pretty clearly say that turning around an Olympics that was headed for disaster and then executive experience (time as governor) is far more experience than being a freshman senator from Illinois who got elected because all the opposition collapsed around him.

At least being a freshman senator is in the governmental realm. I just see them as completely different things. The stakes of being president are much bigger. If the country fails, we have major problems. If the olympics fail, who really cares?

I just think that if there is a case to be made for Romney, it should have to do with his record in MA, or his concrete ideas for the future.

[BajanYankee]

Originally Posted by bjimmy24

At least being a freshman senator is in the governmental realm. I just see them as completely different things. The stakes of being president are much bigger. If the country fails, we have major problems. If the olympics fail, who really cares?

The greatest qualities a president can possess, imo, are the ability to (1) manage crises and (2) make deals. That's it. You need to be an effective crisis manager and a good dealmaker. Presidents don't set policy. The lobbies and entrenched interests that support them make policy before regulatory agencies where vague statutes get shattered into a collage of complex regulations (which are later promulgated in the Federal Register).

Originally Posted by bjimmy24

I just think that if there is a case to be made for Romney, it should have to do with his record in MA, or his concrete ideas for the future.

Romney can't make a case based on his record in Massachusetts (I was living there at the time). He left office with the lowest approval rating for a governor in the history of the Commonwealth.

[Cleveland_Collector]

Originally Posted by hensleya1

Hi bjimmy24--

I'm not voting for R-money but I can pretty clearly say that turning around an Olympics that was headed for disaster and then executive experience (time as governor) is far more experience than being a freshman senator from Illinois who got elected because all the opposition collapsed around him.

Well, I think you can also thank the federal government for kicking in $1.3 billion to help stave off that disaster.

The opposition didn't collapse in 2008. It was the best they had. The only real difference with the current GOP ticket is that the skirt now wears a suit.

[hensleya1]

Originally Posted by Cleveland_Collector

The opposition didn't collapse in 2008. It was the best they had. The only real difference with the current GOP ticket is that the skirt now wears a suit.

Hi Cleveland_Collector--

I'm talking about Obama's run for Senate, not his presidential run.

Although a similar thing could be said in 2008. John McCain was similarly a weak candidate with a terrible ground game, didn't even come close in fundraising or enthusiasm, and never really fired up the base in the same way that Obama did. The nomination of Sarah Palin brought some of the base on board, but it was too little, too late. It was a mismatch from day one.

[ExNooYawk]

If the polls are showing one candidate ahead of the other (be it Romney or Obama) if the machines themselves tell a different story, I hope the good citizens of Ohio step up and demand a verification of results. I will always be suspicious of why the Exit POlls in 2004 showed John Kerry with a 4% lead, followed by a victory for GWB with a 2% lead. The entire episode with the Diebold Machines doesn't pass the smell test.

Tagg Romney recently invested in companies which own voting machines. Why, I wonder? That doesn't pass the smell test either.

Don't let someone cheat you of your rightful choice for president. The result should be fair and square.

[hensleya1]

Originally Posted by ExNooYawk

Don't let someone cheat you of your rightful choice for president. The result should be fair and square.

Hi ExNooYawk--

Mm-hmm.

Voting Machine Swaps Romney for Obama in Marion, Ohio

Joan Stevens was one of several early voters at the polls on Monday. But when Stevens tried to cast her ballot for president, she noticed a problem.

Upon selecting “Mitt Romney” on the electronic touch screen, Barack Obama’s name lit up.

It took Stevens three tries before her selection was accurately recorded.

[janelle144]

If you are a Catholic you need to vote for Romney so you won't lose your religious freedom. Obama is against the 1st amendment which guarantees freedom of religion.