Quick Poll: Who will you vote for in the Presidential election? (Republic: arena, best)

[Natural510]

You can stop now, Znguy...the campaigning is over.

[Townes Van Zandt]

Originally Posted by bjimmy24

I just pointed out that she is dead. I'm not trying to make a point beyond that.

Oh, you weren't trying to make a point beyond that? So you didn't say this:

Originally Posted by bjimmy24

She has no idea about the modern day, youngish, born-on-3rd-and-thinks-I-hit-a-triple crowd of her disciples that exist now. Her quote is meaningless.

^That's what I spent two posts disproving. Perhaps now that you understand that, you'll understand my posts.

Originally Posted by jbcmh81

Not sure what kind of "left" circles you're hanging around in, but certainly not the same ones I do, and I'm very liberal, especially socially.

LOL...you're "very liberal" on social issues yet you're voting for Obama. I'm assuming civil liberties aren't high on your list of "social" issues? Dude, you are like a walking contradiction.

Originally Posted by jbcmh81

I must've missed the part where all dealings with the world at large consisted of warfare.

You're the one supporting Obama, not I. Dead Pakistanis are a part of his form of "engagement"(your term). If you have a problem with that, you might want to reconsider your vote.

Originally Posted by bjimmy24

Bottom line: even if I accept your premise that Any Rand would hate modern libertarians, that doesn't mean that modern libertarians don't like her. You seem to be confused by this.

LOL...I love how you just decide to add that last part out of nowhere. I'd completely agree that many modern libertarians are influenced by her. That doesn't change what I said above.

Originally Posted by jbcmh81

Seriously, if you have to be this naive to be a libertarian, count me out.

I'm just going to point out that you're the one who was forced to resort to ad hominem attacks. I think that tells the unbiased reader all that they need to know.

Originally Posted by ZnGuy

Actually, Obamas campaign strategy is to go after the low hanging fruit, i.e. voters that are the most uninformed (there are alot of them), they're easiest to be pursuaded by the inaccurate personal attacks on Romney and willing to ignore Obama's dismal record.

I hate to break it to you, but that's the campaign strategy of every party. No one can win without pandering to the masses. No, not even Mittens.

[Townes Van Zandt]

It's fun getting you common folk all fired up!

I wish you all luck tomorrow: Go Team Red! Go Team Blue! Democracy, UNITE!


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[Positiveone]

If obama wins America is 100% gone/done forever. Its up to Ohio for sure. As of right now I see obama winning ohio, yet lets see what you gals & guys do. Go make a real change and vote Romney.

[bjimmy24]

Originally Posted by ksu sucks

^That's what I spent two posts disproving. Perhaps now that you understand that, you'll understand my posts.

The part I added at the end of the last post was the entire reason for any of this discussion starting. I guess I thought you had understood that from the beginning. Apologies if that was not clear. Have a nice time not voting today!

[Townes Van Zandt]

Originally Posted by bjimmy24

The part I added at the end of the last post was the entire reason for any of this discussion starting.

Oh, my apologies. I thought I was responding to what you typed. From now on I will assume that your posts are discussing the something other than what you typed. Silly me.

P.S. I'm still predicting an Obama win. C'mon Team Red, don't make it so easy for team Blue!

Rah! Rah! Go Team!

[jbcmh81]

Originally Posted by rich10014

jbcmh81 ha typical liberal response trying to paint republicans as dumb or not deep thinkers..You want to talk about a few lines of quote taken out of context, that's what the whole Obama campaign has done to smear Romney, whether it be the auto bailout, etc. How about some direct quotes from our President in the past:

"Today I’m pledging to cut the deficit we inherited by half by the end of my first term in office."

How did that work out Mr. Obama. He even said himself campaigning in 2008 that running deficits that high were "unpatriotic." He's run up more debt in less than 4 years than Bush did his entire presidency. He's a hypocrite full of broken promises. Washington needs to get back to fiscal responsibility before we end up the way of Greece, Spain, etc.

I didn't say or suggest Republicans are dumb and not deep thinkers. I suggested it about you alone.

Obama had no chance to reduce the deficit. It was never going to happen under the recession. Not with him, and not with anyone else. If you want to hold him accountable for not keeping to that, you're more than free to do so. Personally, I figure that if he didn't cause the recession, it's good enough that things are slowly improving under him. I'd much rather go with slow and steady improvement than take a chance on a guy that can't keep his positions straight. Romney is awful and Republicans have only themselves to blame for putting such an awful candidate up as their nominee.

[jbcmh81]

Originally Posted by ZnGuy

Actually, Obamas campaign strategy is to go after the low hanging fruit, i.e. voters that are the most uninformed (there are alot of them), they're easiest to be pursuaded by the inaccurate personal attacks on Romney and willing to ignore Obama's dismal record.

I suppose that's why the bastion of educational excellence, the South, is all red?

[rich10014]

jbcmh81 what a nice personal insult that was to call me dumb..So nice of you...Well just so you know I'm a professional accountant who just passed the CPA exam so I think know a little thing or two. What I do know is Republican economic policies make much more economic sense than Democratic economic policies. I received at work The Ohio Society of CPA's editorial on who they are endorsing as candidates nationally and locally. And what a shock, roughly 80% of them are Republicans. I think they are enough of a creditable society to know a thing or two about how an economy should be ran and how government should be fiscally responsible.

If Obama had no chance to reduce the deficit, he shouldn't have stuck his foot in his mouth when claiming he can cut it in half. He may have had no chance to substantially reduce it but he did no one any favors my making it substantially worse.

Romney honestly wasn't my first choice for a candidate. I actually like Paul Ryan better. But at least he has real economic experience in being a brilliant business leader and running a responsible budget. He actually understands economic issues and will know how to be fiscally responsible. We've had our first ever U.S. credit downgrade under Mr. Obama's watch. Unacceptable. But all he will do is blame Bush instead of taking accountability for anything.

[Cleveland_Collector]

And what a shock, roughly 80% of them are Republicans.

I'd expect nothing less from a group of monvisioned, misanthropic money changers.

Bush was a disaster. Anybody suggesting otherwise is either stupid or completely disingenuous (notice his COMPLETE absence from every relative GOP campaign). And, out credit downgrade was as a direct result of his tenure. The blame is not solely his, but it is infinitely more on him than it is on the current president. What's "unacceptable" is your inability to acknowledge any of this.

In short, a group of bean counters are the last people I would take any advice from fiscal or otherwise. The biggest reason: their general inability to see anything outside of the tidy world of a balance sheet. It looks like you'll fit right in.