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This is an interesting conversation, because just a few days ago my daughter needed a nice dress to attend a semi-formal occasion with her grandparents. She has just now out-grown the 7-16 sizes at the local department store, so we went upstairs to Juniors. Let's just say that nothing there would have passed muster with either her father or grandfather.
It took hours to find her something appropriate, and we had to visit every store in a very large and high end mall. Everybody was happy with the dress she finally chose, but it was so much harder than it should have been!
Reminds me of shopping for a homecoming dress for my niece, who is 15. She is VERY tall, 5'11", so finding a dress long enough for her was a challenge under normal circumstances. Add to that the dresses in the junior section were only long enough to barely cover the behind of an average height girl. They all looked like shirts on her. We went everywhere, and could NOT find a longer dress. Finally we did find one that came to her mid-thigh, but it was strapless and super tight..still too sexy for a 15 year old, but the best compromise we could come up with. When she put on the dress and high heels, she looked about 25. Good thing she was only going to a high school dance though...I don't think her parents would have let her go any further looking like that.
Yes, boxers not briefs -- the boxers go up to the waist and have a 5 -6 inch inseam. Worn over underwear they are just like modest enough cotton shorts. But I wasn't talking about those shorts with a 4 inch inseam, I was talking about the style a few years ago where they were tight and maybe a 1 or 2 inch inseam and cut very very low at the top.
Those sound uncomfortable, who wants to pull their shorts out of their ass 50 times a day?
I don't remember I think I was trying to defend the mistaken hooters comment and the fact that 4 inches is a decent length for shorts.
To you it's a decent length. Not everyone agrees with you, but you seem to be unable to realize that not everyone does agree with you and is entitled to that disagreement.
What's wrong with knees?
Those sexy like shoulders or something?
This is the kind of stuff that baffles me....
Why cover knees? What about them needs to be covered?
What's wrong with bermuda shorts that come to right above the knee, that way you aren't ruling out shorts all together and girls won't have just capris to wear.
I can't understand how you seem unable to understand that some people have different standards than you do. My family has a standard of not to show knees. Do we think knees are sexy? No. It's just our standard. Some people set a standard of mid-thigh or a few inches above the knee. Ours is different. Plus, I don't have to explain why my family came up with this standard.
In the summer there is not a few inches difference for me. I tend to wear long skirts when it's hot. Guess what. I can do everything that I can do in pants in a skirt, too. I know, that's hard to believe. Don't tell me I can't play sports competitively, either, because you've said it before. However, I can do it. I know, I'm amazing. Whatever. Stop questioning why my family has different standards than you do because you aren't going to change them.
I can't understand how you seem unable to understand that some people have different standards than you do. My family has a standard of not to show knees. Do we think knees are sexy? No. It's just our standard. Some people set a standard of mid-thigh or a few inches above the knee. Ours is different. Plus, I don't have to explain why my family came up with this standard.
In the summer there is not a few inches difference for me. I tend to wear long skirts when it's hot. Guess what. I can do everything that I can do in pants in a skirt, too. I know, that's hard to believe. Don't tell me I can't play sports competitively, either, because you've said it before. However, I can do it. I know, I'm amazing. Whatever. Stop questioning why my family has different standards than you do because you aren't going to change them.
One can question even if they know they will not change your mind one bit. I know for example the chances people will take my advice will usually be nill, but i still let it be known what i think regardless.
One can question even if they know they will not change your mind one bit. I know for example the chances people will take my advice will usually be nill, but i still let it be known what i think regardless.
Of course, but it would suffice to state an opinion once (or even twice). It is not necessary to drive it in to the ground repeatedly or take an argumentative stance.
One can question even if they know they will not change your mind one bit. I know for example the chances people will take my advice will usually be nill, but i still let it be known what i think regardless.
Txt has been questioning me on this topic for years. It wasn't just one question from her.
As another poster stated, any clothing bought for my children is done by me or with me or it is approved by me before it even goes into their room. This is something that from the beginning I set standards on and I explained along the way why I had those standards. I didn't have to necessarily like what they liked, but it had to meet my standards.
I have 2 grown daughters who thank me for instilling standards.
I also have a 14 yr old daughter who has incredibly long legs. I just bought her a pair of shorts that have a 12 inch inseam and it STILL leaves about 4 inches to her knees. A 4 inch inseam would be extremely short on her, even though it covered her butt cheeks.
So, yeah 4 inch inseam would not even be close to conservative for her. Not to mention we don't go for cut offs, even if they are manufactured that way. That is something we consider trashy in our house.
Neither of my two older girls ever felt the need to dress differently than they had been raised, nor to sneak around for anything, so never worried about them doing what the story relayed.
My 14 yr old is very similar to them and I don't see it ever being an issue with her either.
Now, my 9 yr old son is the one who might try to do some sneaking out...so I'll have to be on my toes with him. lol
I can't understand how you seem unable to understand that some people have different standards than you do. My family has a standard of not to show knees.
I can't understand having a clothing length standard. Of all the things to worry about, I think I will pass on that one! Life has so many real things to worry about. Knees? Sure it is your right. But it strikes me as a strange thing to worry about. Death, disease, war, hunger, injustice all around us. And we still have time to worry about knees. Go figure.
I am going to register what seems a dissenting opinion. I would certainly share my opinion of her choice and the unknown (or perhaps known) message that she is sending. Same with pants hanging down past underwear and other obnoxious, ugly stuff for boys. But it is her choice. If she wants to present as a ho', then I will tell her what she is likely to expect from that. But I am not going to tell her she *can't*. Protecting kids from the consequences of their actions is often a mistake. Dressing badly is not going to kill her.
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Let's just say that nothing there would have passed muster with either her father or grandfather.
