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Old 04-18-2016, 12:58 PM
 
Location: CT
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This is kind of a long thread, so, what did the kid do to merit the paddling? My kids are grown and my wife and I were probably called into the school a time or two over the years, over the kids behavior and it was rectified without a flogging. All I can say is, if it were me in this situation, an administrator with the school had better have a VERY convincing reason to take this action, otherwise, somebody is going to be brought to surgery to have a wooden paddle removed from their posterior orfice.
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Old 04-18-2016, 02:30 PM
 
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This is kind of a long thread, so, what did the kid do to merit the paddling? My kids are grown and my wife and I were probably called into the school a time or two over the years, over the kids behavior and it was rectified without a flogging. All I can say is, if it were me in this situation, an administrator with the school had better have a VERY convincing reason to take this action, otherwise, somebody is going to be brought to surgery to have a wooden paddle removed from their posterior orfice.

I believe the (5 year old) child hit someone and spit on them, if I read that correctly.
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Old 04-18-2016, 02:34 PM
 
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I was paddled by the Principal when I was six for running and making too much noise in the school library. My parents never found out because I was too ashamed of my behavior to tell them. They went to their graves never knowing about it.


All through grade school, middle school and high school, I was never in any kind of trouble again. I'm not saying it was right, but it worked like a charm.
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Old 04-18-2016, 02:38 PM
 
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I was paddled by the Principal when I was six for running and making too much noise in the school library. My parents never found out because I was too ashamed of my behavior to tell them. They went to their graves never knowing about it.


All through grade school, middle school and high school, I was never in any kind of trouble again. I'm not saying it was right, but it worked like a charm.

That only works if you have good parents. You can tell you had good parents because you were ashamed of your behavior.


Unfortunately it looks like the kid in question is not as lucky as you were, and the same action will likely inspire an even greater implacable hatred of authority and educational institutions in both mother and son.
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Old 04-18-2016, 02:50 PM
 
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That only works if you have good parents. You can tell you had good parents because you were ashamed of your behavior.


Unfortunately it looks like the kid in question is not as lucky as you were, and the same action will likely inspire an even greater implacable hatred of authority and educational institutions in both mother and son.

That's a good point. Some of these poor kids just grow up in an atmosphere of absolute chaos.
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Old 04-18-2016, 02:50 PM
 
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That only works if you have good parents. You can tell you had good parents because you were ashamed of your behavior.


Unfortunately it looks like the kid in question is not as lucky as you were, and the same action will likely inspire an even greater implacable hatred of authority and educational institutions in both mother and son.
Kids tend to be a product of their environment, if authority is physically threatening how do you think this kid will act as he grows older?
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Old 04-18-2016, 04:12 PM
 
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I was paddled by the Principal when I was six for running and making too much noise in the school library. My parents never found out because I was too ashamed of my behavior to tell them. They went to their graves never knowing about it.


All through grade school, middle school and high school, I was never in any kind of trouble again. I'm not saying it was right, but it worked like a charm.
At six, I would have been intimidated by a principal without being paddled. All they would have had to do was give me a look.
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Old 04-18-2016, 11:41 PM
 
Location: South Carolina
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This is kind of a long thread, so, what did the kid do to merit the paddling? My kids are grown and my wife and I were probably called into the school a time or two over the years, over the kids behavior and it was rectified without a flogging. All I can say is, if it were me in this situation, an administrator with the school had better have a VERY convincing reason to take this action, otherwise, somebody is going to be brought to surgery to have a wooden paddle removed from their posterior orfice.
Seems the mother agreed that the boy could be spanked at school. That is different then what you describe. No school is just going spank a child without parental consent.
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Old 04-19-2016, 01:10 AM
 
Location: Castle Rock CO
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I believe the (5 year old) child hit someone and spit on them, if I read that correctly.
Nearly 25 years ago I was taken to my elementary school's principal's office along with another student for fighting. This was probably the 4th or 5th time in a couple week span the two of us had gotten into it. The principal put us both in a conference room to "go at it" for a few minutes. We beat the tar out of each other and became great friends afterwards.

I think part of the problem comes from not letting kids learn how to work things out. If the kid he had hit and spit on had been given a chance to fight back, the boy would have still learned his lesson and this whole spanking mess probably wouldn't have ever occurred.
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Old 04-19-2016, 10:57 PM
 
Location: South Texas
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Schools.should not be in the business of corporal punishment at all. Regardless of what "other people may choose".
So you think that government should deny parents the ability to choose what punishments are appropriate and inappropriate for their own children. What makes you think you know what's best for other people's children?



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Denying the parent the choice to punish by paddling by a school official is not denying corporal punishment to the parent. It's denying corporal punishment to the school. The parent is still allowed to use corporal punishment (within the bounds of the law) at home.
I never said it is denying the ability of the parent to use corporal punishment at home. I said it is denying the parent the ability to choose whether or not corporal punishment may be used on their child at school.



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Unless you are saying you prefer the government to parent your child for you? You don't think you can perform corporal punishment correctly at home, so it is up to the school to do it for you, because of course the government and it's representatives will surely know how to hit your children more effectively than you can? Perhaps we should outlaw all punishment at home, and only let school administrators do it from now on. Of course, the parent still gets to choose. The school sends home a sheet with all possible punishments on it, the parent chooses, and every time the child misbehaves the parent sends that sheet to school so that the administrator can perform the punishment. Because it should be the school's job to raise the kid, not the parent's, right?
You got that completely bass-ackwards. The reason schools punish children during school hours is because parents are not there to do it themselves; the school is acting in place of the parent.



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No. My kid, my responsibility. The school is only allowed to do punishments related to school. Extra assignments, detentions, work in the school, suspension, expulsion. The rest of parenting, including administering or refraining to administer any corporal punishment, is MY domain. Get the school out of it.
I believe that all parents should have the right to make that decision for their children, which is why I don't believe that corporal punishment should be banned from schools.
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