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I watched the video and wish I hadn't. I'm not someone that gets upset easily but that made me sick to me stomach. I can't believe that such a thing is allowed in a civilised country.
Large parts of the US do not qualify as a civilised country
This reminds me of the situation I faced over and over again with four kids in our local public school system.
Every year the schools would send home a permission slip asking for parental permission for paddling. Every year I sent the same note back to the school:
"I do not give you permission to hit my child with a 2" x 4" piece of wood. If I did that, and someone on your staff found out about it and reported it, I would be investigated for child abuse. I fail to see how giving permission for a stranger do it to a child of mine is any more morally superior. If you have a discipline problem with my child, contact me and I will discipline that child at home."
The thing is - I did follow through with discipline at home.
No sorry, I was not clear. I agree that parents should always be able to make choices for their minor children. But paddling by a school administrator should not have been one of the choices offered to her in the first place. The choice should have been something like detention vs suspension. Then the mother gets to choose.
That is still denying choice to the parent(s).
The parent(s) should be the only party who has the ability to choose what corrective measures may or may not be used on their child(ren).
I agree that schools should not be in the business of using corporal punishment at all.
I don't get why the people who think that the public schools are bungling education think that schools won't bungle corporal punishment. If you want the government out of the business of parenting, you should certainly include the schools in that equation.
The parent(s) should be the only party who has the ability to choose what corrective measures may or may not be used on their child(ren).
Denying the parent the choice to punish by paddling by a school official is not denying corporal punishment to the parent. It's denying corporal punishment to the school. The parent is still allowed to use corporal punishment (within the bounds of the law) at home.
Unless you are saying you prefer the government to parent your child for you? You don't think you can perform corporal punishment correctly at home, so it is up to the school to do it for you, because of course the government and it's representatives will surely know how to hit your children more effectively than you can? Perhaps we should outlaw all punishment at home, and only let school administrators do it from now on. Of course, the parent still gets to choose. The school sends home a sheet with all possible punishments on it, the parent chooses, and every time the child misbehaves the parent sends that sheet to school so that the administrator can perform the punishment. Because it should be the school's job to raise the kid, not the parent's, right?
No. My kid, my responsibility. The school is only allowed to do punishments related to school. Extra assignments, detentions, work in the school, suspension, expulsion. The rest of parenting, including administering or refraining to administer any corporal punishment, is MY domain. Get the school out of it.
Denying the parent the choice to punish by paddling by a school official is not denying corporal punishment to the parent. It's denying corporal punishment to the school. The parent is still allowed to use corporal punishment (within the bounds of the law) at home.
Unless you are saying you prefer the government to parent your child for you? You don't think you can perform corporal punishment correctly at home, so it is up to the school to do it for you, because of course the government and it's representatives will surely know how to hit your children more effectively than you can? Perhaps we should outlaw all punishment at home, and only let school administrators do it from now on. Of course, the parent still gets to choose. The school sends home a sheet with all possible punishments on it, the parent chooses, and every time the child misbehaves the parent sends that sheet to school so that the administrator can perform the punishment. Because it should be the school's job to raise the kid, not the parent's, right?
No. My kid, my responsibility. The school is only allowed to do punishments related to school. Extra assignments, detentions, work in the school, suspension, expulsion. The rest of parenting, including administering or refraining to administer any corporal punishment, is MY domain. Get the school out of it.
Amen and amen.
If a teacher or administrator suspected me of hitting my kid with a board, they would likely report me to Child Protective Services, and yet the school can do this? No bueno.
I understood her point. Mine was that her distaste for corporal punishment should not limit what other people may choose for their children.
I would address this but people said it for me. So, "Yeah. What they said"
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