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Old 07-24-2020, 08:46 AM
 
Location: SoCal again
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I was 15 when I had a bf who was 23. No one got beaten and I survived without damage. I was not a skank, did not turn into a skank and the 23 year old guy was a virgin. Maybe he was a bit behind in his development, but oh well.

We need some gun control. He could have killed that boy. Violence is never the answer.
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Old 07-24-2020, 09:16 AM
 
Location: Mr. Roger's Neighborhood
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I'm surprised that no one has mentioned the proverbial "elephant in the room" in this scenario. I don't know if it was the guy's age in addition to being in this girl's room (by her express invitation, mind) so much as something else that set the dad off to such an extreme degree....

I also think that a lot of people are seeing in their mind's eye a young woman who's fourteen as looking and acting younger than she likely does. Between the way some girls are physically developed to the layers of makeup that are currently popular to the way that they know how to pose for a camera in a sexy way (far too early, but I digress), I tend to buy the assertion that the young man had good reason to believe that she was much older than her chronological age.

Also, in response to another poster who thinks that guy should have known something wasn't right when the girl snuck him into her room, even an eighteen year old who lived under parents' roof would likely be sneaking that guy in under cover of darkness--especially if she lives in a rather conservative household.

No one wants to think about their fourteen year old daughter being interested in sex/sexually active, but the truth is, a lot of them are. Even back when I was this girl's age, I had classmates who had far older boyfriends; one became pregnant. It's not acceptable, of course, but the Dad's reaction was disproportionate to the crime in which is daughter was very much complicit (if not herself the instigator).
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Old 07-24-2020, 09:55 AM
 
Location: Queens, NY
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I was 15 when I had a bf who was 23. No one got beaten and I survived without damage. I was not a skank, did not turn into a skank and the 23 year old guy was a virgin. Maybe he was a bit behind in his development, but oh well.

We need some gun control. He could have killed that boy. Violence is never the answer.
Most Dad's would beat up or at least go crazy over an adult who was coming to meet and maybe do more to his teenage minor daughter. Let's be real. It's a simple reality check.
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Old 07-24-2020, 09:56 AM
 
Location: Queens, NY
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No one wants to think about their fourteen year old daughter being interested in sex/sexually active, but the truth is, a lot of them are. Even back when I was this girl's age, I had classmates who had far older boyfriends; one became pregnant. It's not acceptable, of course, but the Dad's reaction was disproportionate to the crime in which is daughter was very much complicit (if not herself the instigator).
The daughter is a minor and can't consent, the adult can.
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Old 07-24-2020, 10:00 AM
 
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I was 15 when I had a bf who was 23. No one got beaten and I survived without damage. I was not a skank, did not turn into a skank and the 23 year old guy was a virgin. Maybe he was a bit behind in his development, but oh well.

We need some gun control. He could have killed that boy. Violence is never the answer.
And where were your parents?

A 15 yr old with an adult = NOPE.
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Old 07-24-2020, 10:03 AM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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I was 15 when I had a bf who was 23. No one got beaten and I survived without damage. I was not a skank, did not turn into a skank and the 23 year old guy was a virgin. Maybe he was a bit behind in his development, but oh well.

We need some gun control. He could have killed that boy. Violence is never the answer.
Exactly, the age difference between 14 and 20 is not that big, although I still don't condone someone knowingly having sex with an underage girl if they are not underage. I do think the boy should be charged because he broke the law.

That said, the father's reaction and level of violence was way overboard, and I am shocked at how many people are supportive of it. The only situation where I can see this type of reaction (and there may in fact be more to the story), is if the boy was physically forcing himself on the daughter when the father walked in.

If that was not the case, how would the father have known the boy's age (he looks like he could be anywhere from 15-20 to me)? So theoretically, the father would have likely also done the same thing (beaten and shot) a boy who was 15 years old fooling around in his daughter's room.

How many of us as teenagers had teenage girlfriends the same age of us who we may have been in their room unsupervised and kissed or more? We would have likely ended up beaten and shot at if we encountered a father like this.

Again, the boy should not get off free. I agree with him being charged. But I think the father went way too far, unless he knew the boy's age and he know that the boy knew that the girl was a minor; but how could the father have known any of those facts?????
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Old 07-24-2020, 10:11 AM
 
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The daughter is a minor and can't consent, the adult can.
That's fine except she likely lied about her age just as the guy that she snuck into her room said that she did.

I'm not condoning sex with a minor, but she sure as heck gets no pass for being an "innocent child."

Kids game online, they chat, they think that someone who they talk to and become close to through the game is their boyfriend/girlfriend (which is what was going on in this case), and they decide to meet up. Having an older boyfriend has always been desirable thing (especially one who can drive).

I can easily see how things went down until the point of Dad freaking out upon finding a young man (and he looks very young) in his daughter's room. It's also Georgia and the young man in question is the thing that absolutely no one has mentioned (because no one seems to want to pull *that* card, even though it's an obvious choice and reason why things escalated to the degree that they did between the Dad and the young man) and so it goes....
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Old 07-24-2020, 10:17 AM
 
Location: SoCal again
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And where were your parents?

A 15 yr old with an adult = NOPE.
i my area in Ventura County they have babies at age 15. Hispanics. Very common to have 2 children by the age of 18. Some 25 year old hispanics I am talking to sound more mature than alot of white Americans at age 40.

where I grew up (Germany), I was out of school at age 16, fully working.

i think this is a cultural thing. when I was 13 I had my first part time job. At that age I cooked and cleaned when my parents sometimes came home later from work, so the family has food on the table.
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Old 07-24-2020, 10:20 AM
 
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Exactly, the age difference between 14 and 20 is not that big, although I still don't condone someone knowingly having sex with an underage girl if they are not underage. I do think the boy should be charged because he broke the law.

That said, the father's reaction and level of violence was way overboard, and I am shocked at how many people are supportive of it. The only situation where I can see this type of reaction (and there may in fact be more to the story), is if the boy was physically forcing himself on the daughter when the father walked in.

If that was not the case, how would the father have known the boy's age (he looks like he could be anywhere from 15-20 to me)? So theoretically, the father would have likely also done the same thing (beaten and shot) a boy who was 15 years old fooling around in his daughter's room.

How many of us as teenagers had teenage girlfriends the same age of us who we may have been in their room unsupervised and kissed or more? We would have likely ended up beaten and shot at if we encountered a father like this.

Again, the boy should not get off free. I agree with him being charged. But I think the father went way too far, unless he knew the boy's age and he know that the boy knew that the girl was a minor; but how could the father have known any of those facts?????
I agree to this. The father had no idea that boy was 20, he could just as well have been 16. I like how they worded the headline "...beating man." that was a boy, not a man.

I don't agree that this boy should get charged and be labeled a sex offender for life. His whole future goes down the drain, this will stick to him forever.
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Old 07-24-2020, 10:27 AM
 
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they have babies at age 15. ....... Very common to have 2 children by the age of 18.
Still doesn't make it right, what hope is there for a baby being raised by a child? History will just repeat itself. Leading to more dysfunctional families, ill educated people, disease and poverty.
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