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Old 04-03-2014, 09:44 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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I don't think things like current GDP, Alpha rankings and especially the Fortune 500 presence in a city tell the whole story or accomplishments of a place without acknowledging the history first. Philadelphia and Minneapolis have very different histories and it's kind of remarkable how far Philly has come, seeing as it quite possibly had to deindustrialize moreso than any other city in the country. While I agree with a lot of what FamousBlue is saying, I do think that Philadelphia has a legacy and history that simply cannot be matched by most cities and even if cities like Atlanta/Houston exceed it on things like GDP, the legacy and history will never match.

So yes, I am biased, but I feel Philadelphia's resurgence will be very notable. In many ways as far as urbanity is concerned I feel that NYC, Chicago and Philadelphia are on their own level in this country-in the coming years I think that it will be easier for outsiders to see this.
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Old 04-03-2014, 09:51 AM
 
Location: The Flagship City and Vacation in the Paris of Appalachia
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Right, and Delaware is more of a financial hub than NYC because that's where all the banks are chartered.
Straw man is that you? If you actually look at the list of companies headquartered in the Twin Cities you will notice that several are very important global companies.
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Old 04-03-2014, 09:54 AM
 
Location: The Flagship City and Vacation in the Paris of Appalachia
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For the record I feel that both Philadelphia and Minneapolis are world class cities. I just wanted to point that out because I didn't want people to think that I was trying to say Minneapolis was better or trying to create some type of comparison. Overall, I have just been disagreeing with a previous poster who stated that nobody cares about Minnesota or Minneapolis.
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Old 04-03-2014, 09:59 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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For the record I feel that both Philadelphia and Minneapolis are world class cities. I just wanted to point that out because I didn't want people to think that I was trying to say Minneapolis was better or trying to create some type of comparison. Overall, I have just been disagreeing with a previous poster who stated that nobody cares about Minnesota or Minneapolis.
The most famous Philadelphian to move to Minneapolis?

Goldberg of the Mighty Ducks

I agree both cities are such great assets for the country though.
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Old 04-03-2014, 10:15 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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As far as tourist attractions go, you have to remember a lot of people also visit the Mall of America every year for some reason (an annoying place to be, but hey, so is 6th and Market at the height of the summer).
And a ton of visitors going to King or Prussia Mall, the second largest Mall in the US after Mall of America.

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As far as tourism to the actual city of Minneapolis - there's a much bigger presence of business travelers as opposed to the typical lines at the liberty bell. Minneapolis consistently ranks high as far as education, culture, and economics goes.
Philly ranks higher in education. No school in Minneapolis comes close to the prestige of the University of Pennsylvania. Minneapolis has a more robust economy currently, I guess, but Philadelphia's is still SO MUCH larger. No matter what way you cut it. And the cultural attractions in Philadelphia are consistently ranked higher than Minneapolis whether it is museums, ballet, opera, symphony, theater, nightlife, restaurants, or any other attraction imaginable.... so I'm a little confused why you're selling Philly short.
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Old 04-03-2014, 10:19 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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I believe there are many reasons that Minneapolis/St. Paul are world class, but here is one to get all of you thinking:

The Twin Cities metro area is home to the headquarters of 17 Fortune 500 companies, which is more than Atlanta, Boston, Denver, and Philadelphia (10), and just short of Washington D.C. (18).
What does fortune 500 companies have to do with anything?

Comcast makes more yearly than half of the companies on Minneapolis' list combined lol.
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Old 04-03-2014, 11:05 AM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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So yea, in general people don't care about Minnesota. Not saying it's right, just saying it's the truth. Anyone elected in PA is a bigger deal that people elected in Minnesota because in general everything in s a bigger deal here.
This paragraph is a perfect example of Philadelphia provincialism.

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Straw man is that you? If you actually look at the list of companies headquartered in the Twin Cities you will notice that several are very important global companies.
Yes, like Target - a company that 15 years ago everyone on the east coast was clamoring to locate in their town.

LOL indeed.
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Old 04-03-2014, 11:43 AM
 
Location: Philly
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Straw man is that you? If you actually look at the list of companies headquartered in the Twin Cities you will notice that several are very important global companies.
My point is that the metric is not compelling. Miami only has 4, does that mean Minneapolis is 4 times the city Miami is? The main economic drivers in Philadelphia are medicine, education, and government, not large corporations.
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Old 04-03-2014, 12:25 PM
 
Location: The Flagship City and Vacation in the Paris of Appalachia
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What does fortune 500 companies have to do with anything?

Comcast makes more yearly than half of the companies on Minneapolis' list combined lol.
Fortune 500 companies with international presence mean not only jobs, but international significance for an area. For instance, 3M is not only well known worldwide, but has a major presence in several countries and the products are used all over the world. In addition to the significant number of Fortune 500 companies in the Twin Cities metro, the area is also home to the largest privately held corporation in the U.S., Cargill.

This quote pretty much says it all: Founded in 1865, it is now the largest privately held corporation in the United States in terms of revenue. If it were a public company, it would rank, as of 2013, number 9 on the Fortune 500, behind Valero Energy and ahead of Ford Motor Company.

Cargill - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I am refuting a previous poster's notion that nobody cares or knows about Minneapolis.

P.S. Since you brought up Comcast, how does their annual revenue compare to Cargill? lol
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Old 04-03-2014, 12:29 PM
 
Location: The Flagship City and Vacation in the Paris of Appalachia
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My point is that the metric is not compelling. Miami only has 4, does that mean Minneapolis is 4 times the city Miami is? The main economic drivers in Philadelphia are medicine, education, and government, not large corporations.
The metric is not definitive, but the number of large companies headquartered in the Twin Cities metro is very impressive and definitely means it is a significant U.S. city.
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