Phiadelphia's Revitalization (Philadelphia, Monument: sales, landscaping, construction)

[MarketStEl]

Originally Posted by MB1562

But again, why waste over 2 hours each way on a commute every day. Getting to 30th St., waiting for the train, taking the train up there to Penn, and then having to walk/subway to wherever the office is (probably Lower Manhattan). That seems like a colossal waste of time for the negligible money you'd save.

Depending on what Census tracts you're comparing, the differential can be anywhere from zero to $2000 per month in rent.

And depending on what sort of lifestyle you want to live, it's quite possible that you may find yourself saving $1000 to $1500 a month, or more, on an apartment in Rittenhouse vs. one on the Upper East Side.

I think there is a point at which it would be worth the monthly Amtrak pass.

And don't forget that the commute by train can be productive time. The hour spent on the Acela can be time spent writing, reading or handling correspondence.

[2002 Subaru]

Originally Posted by southbound_295

I don't think that the Vine St Expressway is divisive, but then, I used to see tiny little children from Chinatown running, in their Catholic school uniforms, dragging their bookbags, from island to island, trying to cross the street. Chinatown won. They got more than they dreamed of. The children cross, safely, at the cross streets. The excavation made jobs for archaeologists. A forgotten cemetery was found & those people were moved to a known cemetery.

It's much more attractive than what was there before.

Thank you for the history lesson, I was unaware. Good for Chinatown!

[MB1562]

Originally Posted by MarketStEl

Depending on what Census tracts you're comparing, the differential can be anywhere from zero to $2000 per month in rent.

And depending on what sort of lifestyle you want to live, it's quite possible that you may find yourself saving $1000 to $1500 a month, or more, on an apartment in Rittenhouse vs. one on the Upper East Side.

I think there is a point at which it would be worth the monthly Amtrak pass.

And don't forget that the commute by train can be productive time. The hour spent on the Acela can be time spent writing, reading or handling correspondence.

But a montly Acela will still run you around $1300-1500. Again, putting up with that commute every day just to save a few hundred bucks a month just seems dumb to me. You'll already be working long hours in New York, then long commutes each way, and then tired by the time you get home. You won't even get the chance to enjoy Philadelphia. Unless all you want to do is work, then I just don't see the point.

He might want to read this article by someone who did that very same commute for 3 years.

https://medium.com/@beahbl/what-you-...e-321a75777c7b

[cpomp]

Originally Posted by MB1562

But a montly Acela will still run you around $1300-1500. Again, putting up with that commute every day just to save a few hundred bucks a month just seems dumb to me. You'll already be working long hours in New York, then long commutes each way, and then tired by the time you get home. You won't even get the chance to enjoy Philadelphia. Unless all you want to do is work, then I just don't see the point.

He might want to read this article by someone who did that very same commute for 3 years.

https://medium.com/@beahbl/what-you-...e-321a75777c7b

And there is nothing wrong with living in NYC for a couple of years. It might actually be a lot of fun to experience it, especially at a young age. Also makes it more fun if you're making big money, then you the whole city as your playground. The bonus is he could come home to Philadelphia on the weekends if he misses it that much.

[southbound_295]

Originally Posted by 2002 Subaru

Thank you for the history lesson, I was unaware. Good for Chinatown!

You're welcome.

When I was a student at Philadelphia College of Art, I was approached by a student, from Chinatown, to sign that petition. I signed it, & it was several years before the sunken highway was open. I followed it, because I had signed the petition. I felt like I had an involvement.

The Vine St Expressway has minimal impact on Center City, unlike the original plan. All of the credit goes to the people in Chinatown.

[cpomp]

Originally Posted by southbound_295

You're welcome.

When I was a student at Philadelphia College of Art, I was approached by a student, from Chinatown, to sign that petition. I signed it, & it was several years before the sunken highway was open. I followed it, because I had signed the petition. I felt like I had an involvement.

The Vine St Expressway has minimal impact on Center City, unlike the original plan. All of the credit goes to the people in Chinatown.

It should still be fully capped though. Regardless of whether its sunken or not, its not a pleasant experience to walk over the barren bridges loud traffic underneath. The cap would provide a continuous flow of development to the north.

[southbound_295]

Originally Posted by cpomp

It should still be fully capped though. Regardless of whether its sunken or not, its not a pleasant experience to walk over the barren bridges loud traffic underneath. The cap would provide a continuous flow of development to the north.

Maybe you enjoy driving through tunnels. I don't & don't know anyone who does. Most people do it if they have to, but don't wish for it. The people who have walked across it the most live in Chinatown. If they wanted it capped, they would have asked for it by now. Over the years there have been accidents that were easier to deal with because it's open.

[FKD19124]

Frankford will get better when, section 8 housing like in other neighborhoods goes away.

Section 8 is the cancer of any neighborhood.

Originally Posted by 2e1m5a

I don't think it's fair to say Northeast Philly will continue its decline-some of the most stable neighborhoods are in NE Philly especially Fox Chase and further up in the Far Northeast. Frankford has loads of potential and great public transit/access. Other neighborhoods seem to be stabilizing somewhat and becoming immigrant havens like Oxford Circle Lawncrest Mayfair etc.

[FKD19124]

The wage tax,

liquor tax,
cigarette tax,

and of course the beverage tax.



that is why Philadelphia has a nick name of Tax-adelphia. When the democrats are voted out of power
and stop realizing that you can't tax a cities population into prosperity maybe things will change.

Originally Posted by Redddog

The wage tax alone would make a game-changing difference. It's remarkable that they can't get that done.

[MB1562]

Originally Posted by FKD19124

The wage tax,

liquor tax,
cigarette tax,

and of course the beverage tax.



that is why Philadelphia has a nick name of Tax-adelphia. When the democrats are voted out of power
and stop realizing that you can't tax a cities population into prosperity maybe things will change.

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