Official Census results show Philly's population now over 1.6 million (Philadelphia: 2013, elementary school)

[AshbyQuin]

Originally Posted by MPK21

Don't know what you're getting at here; I found this thread by way of the census and really like Philly.

Imagine what Philly could be if, in fact, it grew a pair and addressed the gun violence and poverty issues instead of doling out $$ to disguised as political paybacks to the garden variety of community groups that exist there (and in many of these types of cities).

Btw, this is Philly's greatest population gain since the '40s, not the '50s...the 1950s began Philly
's population decline. You may want to get your facts straight instead of some instant emotional response; then again, we live in the age of emotion over fact, which always ends badly.

Is the line about people who can afford to avoid the ''issues'' mentioned supposed to be some ground breaking theory? Thanks for the Sociology 101 lesson but who doesn't know this by age, oh, 10?

It's black males killing black males in black neighborhoods...with the now occasional incidents, for example, by airbnb renters wildly spraying gunfire in areas people can afford to live in like 13th/Pine-Lombard on a WSunday night at 11pm...or dude having ''mental health crisis'' also known as meth freaks driving onto Center City sidewalks running down a 32 yo women walking home from work at 2am (then turns around and kind of grinds her with stolen car).

So, it should be an interesting analysis post-Covid (whenever that actually starts) and post-Census how are legacy big cities going forward.

Before anyone gets triggered, as usual in this Age of Emotion over Fact, the City of Philly has targeted black males 16-34 yo for these ''violence interrupters'' community groups. Isn't Philly pouring up to $150 million to these ''stop violence'' community groups? Is Philly really a city geared for progressive experiments?

Just under 80,000 population growth is good and Philly has held onto #6 top 10 cities. Philly needs to step it up in the age of remote work.

You wrote at least 2 paragraphs of howgwash, and have done the same to 4 other users comments... but we're the 'emotional' ones, right?

[cpomp]

Originally Posted by Duderino

Well, it was one of those "lucky accidents" that Center City never overbuilt its office market. Yes, it largely missed out on the office jobs boom that benefitted other cities during the 2000s and 2010s, but given remote work trends, which were always going to intensify long-term--pandemic or no pandemic--Philly has actually made itself more much more economically resilient relative to commercial real estate.

It has one of the most thoroughly mixed-use downtowns in the US, which is a critical component of vibrancy and stability. With its still overwhelmingly affordable urban real estate (for a large, East Coast city), walkability, robust public transit, and cultural vibrancy, it is primed to attract urban-minded remote workers and tons more opportunities for adaptive re-use flex office space.


Climate change is a far more pressing issue at the moment than AI. Frankly, I'm skeptical that AI will ever be able to replicate the intricacies of the human mind, but that's a whole other thread topic.

What's going on climatologically not just in the American West right now, but also across the globe, is very concerning, and it will have dramatic impacts on livability for substantial parts of the world. At the moment, aside from the obvious heat waves, Philadelphia seems to be on the lesser-impacted side. Let's all hope its stays that way.

I bolded the robust transit part. Now is the time for leadership to really focus on this. A lot other cities have legitimate plans in place to expand their transit networks (many have shovels in the ground). Not all are great plans, but why is Philadelphia lagging here? We already have a solid network, but need more. Does a lot of this fall on the state and their lack of funding for SEPTA projects?

[cpomp]

Originally Posted by AshbyQuin

Why did you feel the need to make a new account? Why not say this on your regular account? Highest poverty rate and highest homicide rate, and yet we've seen the biggest population gain since the 50's. Apparently thats not stopping who can afford to live in neighborhoods that experience very little if any of the "issues" you bought up.

This section has been a magnet for trolls/haters lately, and it's probably the same person. Philadelphia lives rent free in your head.

I wonder what the go-to hater comment will be when Philadelphia loses its title of "most impoverished big city". I could see Houston (or even Dallas) overtaking that title in the coming years.

But yea, I don't know what the deal is with these "new" users. Either stick with your first account, or find a new hobby. I laugh that people actually go through the process of registering a new account just to spread negative garbage... Definitely clouds what should be a fun thread.

[gwillyfromphilly]

Originally Posted by SteelCityRising

I wonder if the Black population grew considerably in Delaware, Montgomery, Chester, and Bucks Counties? Pittsburgh saw a huge decline of nearly 11,000 Black residents over the past decade, but Allegheny County (surrounding county) saw a large increase in Black residents overall, so it seems like Blacks are just being gentrified out of our city in droves and into the suburbs. I wonder if that's the case with Philadelphia, too.

https://www.inquirer.com/news/philad...-20210812.html

Here are the stats
Demographic population change in local counties from 2010 to 2020

Bucks County, PA
White:–4% Black:+18% Hispanic:+48% Asian:+47%

Chester County, PA
White: –1% Black: –3% Hispanic:+34% Asian:+83%

Delaware County, PA
White: –9% Black:+17% Hispanic:+62% Asian:+39%

Montgomery County, PA
White:-2% Black:+18% Hispanic:+59% Asian:+32%

[AshbyQuin]

Originally Posted by gwillyfromphilly

https://www.inquirer.com/news/philad...-20210812.html

Here are the stats
Demographic population change in local counties from 2010 to 2020

Bucks County, PA
White:–4% Black:+18% Hispanic:+48% Asian:+47%

Chester County, PA
White: –1% Black: –3% Hispanic:+34% Asian:+83%

Delaware County, PA
White: –9% Black:+17% Hispanic:+62% Asian:+39%

Montgomery County, PA
White:-2% Black:+18% Hispanic:+59% Asian:+32%

Cheltenham and Norristown carrying MontCo's black population. I gotta think by now Cheltenham is at least 40% Black by now if not 38% ish. Love to see it

[Muinteoir]

Originally Posted by SteelCityRising

I wonder if the Black population grew considerably in Delaware, Montgomery, Chester, and Bucks Counties? Pittsburgh saw a huge decline of nearly 11,000 Black residents over the past decade, but Allegheny County (surrounding county) saw a large increase in Black residents overall, so it seems like Blacks are just being gentrified out of our city in droves and into the suburbs. I wonder if that's the case with Philadelphia, too.

Originally Posted by gwillyfromphilly

https://www.inquirer.com/news/philad...-20210812.html

Here are the stats
Demographic population change in local counties from 2010 to 2020

Bucks County, PA
White:–4% Black:+18% Hispanic:+48% Asian:+47%

Chester County, PA
White: –1% Black: –3% Hispanic:+34% Asian:+83%

Delaware County, PA
White: –9% Black:+17% Hispanic:+62% Asian:+39%

Montgomery County, PA
White:-2% Black:+18% Hispanic:+59% Asian:+32%

Nice, that all checks out. I have a hunch that if you looked at the numbers town-by-town, you'd see that a lot of the Black population is moving to the inner-ring suburbs. When people who formerly could afford to live in say Cedar Park or Mt. Airy no longer can, they look at options like Cheltenham, Bensalem, Upper Darby, etc. which tend to be more practical for raising a family, but are still not too far from the city. Chester, notably, lacks inner-ring suburbs. So SCR, I think the answer to your question is "yes, to an extent." There are still "affordable" options in the city limits, but they don't tend to be as appealing as the inner-ring suburbs. And I say all of this acknowledging that people of all races are being priced out of certain areas. The real estate appreciation in Philadelphia has been pretty wild, especially this past year.

The suburban county stats are fascinating. It is exciting to see that our suburbs are diversifying, as I think we are one of the few major metros that still has this "lily white suburbs" stereotype, especially on the PA side.

[Muinteoir]

Originally Posted by AshbyQuin

Cheltenham and Norristown carrying MontCo's black population. I gotta think by now Cheltenham is at least 40% Black by now if not 38% ish. Love to see it

Right, that is very exciting. Are you very familiar with Norristown? I hope that city sees a comeback. It is so well geographically positioned in our metro, that it's hard for me to imagine it won't one day become Conshohocken 2.0.

[ilovephilly79]

Originally Posted by AshbyQuin

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Cheltenham and Norristown carrying MontCo's black population. I gotta think by now Cheltenham is at least 40% Black by now if not 38% ish. Love to see it

Would it be racist to say that you love to see a growing white population and a declining black population?

[Muinteoir]

Originally Posted by ilovephilly79

Would it be racist to say that you love to see a growing white population and a declining black population?

Would it be rude to attempt to derail a thread via race-baiting, especially when Ashby never mentioned the declining white population in MontCo? The answer is: yes.

[ilovephilly79]

Originally Posted by Muinteoir

Would it be rude to attempt to derail a thread via race-baiting, especially when Ashby never mentioned the declining white population in MontCo? The answer is: yes.

It just always surprises me what people say. And I'm guessing that you would be jumping on it if it were reversed. That's okay though it wasn't so nothing to see here.

Edit: and one more thing, if somebody else on here saw a growing white population and a shrinking black population and cheered on the fact that the white population was growing, do you really think nobody would say anything?