How do you remember Phoenix? Stories from long time residents... (Tucson: generators, long term)

[SluggoF16]

Originally Posted by Westside Willie

Are you sure you're not thinking of the Civic Plaza across the street?
I too saw Uriah Heep there (72?) while it was actually still being finished. The ceiling was not even installed yet, and yes the sound was atrocious!
I believe we sat in folding chairs. Nice.

however ... the tickets were about 4 bucks.

It would be fine today if a death metal or goth band (such as my 16-year old niece loves) played in a place with lousy acoustics. Could anyone tell the difference?

[SluggoF16]

Originally Posted by desertratz

The plane was a Grumman F9 Panther if I recall correctly? I do remember it was completely gutted out and in my 8 and 9 year old days, I could crawl in the tailpipe, through the engine compartment and out through one of the 2 air intakes. Of course I was a little smaller and skinnier in those days.

The plane is gone now and a story I heard is that the city either sold it or gave it away. Then the government came to take inventory on it and all hell broke loose. I guess the government retains ownership on all military aircraft. They might "lend" it to you, but it's still theirs. Probably because it was "donated" and not sold at surplus auction?

The same aircraft as in the great movie "The Bridges at Toko Ri", a Panther F9F. It's not a good idea to give away or sell a surplus aircraft, even one de-militarized. Unless it's completely destroyed in accordance with directives it's still US property, and the chain of custody requirements for transfer are mind-boggling. (It's partly what I now do for the USAF) Attached pic, while slightly off-subject, is an F-4 we destroyed a couple years ago, went from a bombing range target to a bunch of scrap. Fortunately the cost of the scrap covered the expense and then a little extra giving some $$$ back to the taxpayer.

[desertskies]

I saw Loggins and Messina at the Civic Plaza in '73. It was the concert tour when they recorded "On Stage".

Everytime I hear that album, I'm back in the front of the crowd...

[roosevelt]

Originally Posted by Westside Willie

Are you sure you're not thinking of the Civic Plaza across the street?
I too saw Uriah Heep there (72?) while it was actually still being finished. The ceiling was not even installed yet, and yes the sound was atrocious!
I believe we sat in folding chairs. Nice.

however ... the tickets were about 4 bucks.

Here it is in 1975 - BTW that awful red "sculpture" now resides in the N parking lot entrance of the Burton Barr Library on Central.
The human figures that used to be on front of Symphony Hall were moved across the street in front of the Herberger.

For a really awful sculpture, try the Sun Worshiper by Emery. He did some artistic work but also cartoon like figures (golfer) which I think hurt his legacy.

[SluggoF16]

Since the topic seems to be music, anyone ever participate in the annual tradition of New Years Eve with Jerry Riopelle "In The Round" at the Celebrity? An amazing songwriter and performer.

[desertratz]

Originally Posted by desertskies

I saw Loggins and Messina at the Civic Plaza in '73. It was the concert tour when they recorded "On Stage".

Everytime I hear that album, I'm back in the front of the crowd...

I know what you mean. I saw John Stewart at Symphony Hall in 1974 when he recorded the Phoenix Concerts album. His music isn't for everybody, but I still enjoy listening to it.

[taharvey]

Originally Posted by Magnum Mike

Born in October 1956, and raised in Phoenix. I remember when 19th Ave & Greenway was considered a remote area, there was a small airport there for gliders called Turf Soaring school, when I was 16, I used to ride my bike (before I started driving) there and watch gliders take off being towed by another plane, forgot what kind it was, but it was fun.

If you drove on Bell Road in the 1970's, there wasn't much, and it was that way up until the late 1980's.

In december of 73 i was home on leave from the army and fell asleep at the light at greeway and black canyon. In those dayes the 7/11 just east of the freeway was the only thing there. When the policeman tapped on the window I rolled it down and he asked if I was waiting for a color I liked. Does anyone remember cloud nine resturant?

[trillcatz]

Originally Posted by desertratz

Growing up in Mesa, that train and fighter were WAY COOL! We climbed over every inch of that locomotive and tender and never once got hurt. We played train robbers and I was one bad dude with my Mattel Fanner 50 sixgun with the Shootin' Shells and the Greenie Stickem Caps. Yeah, I was the Man!

The bell on the train had the clapper removed to prevent it from clanging since you could still swing it on it's bracket. However, never underestimate the ability of a determined kid to find a rock and make that sucker really ring! The city eventually welded a metal plate on the bottom of the bell so when you hit it, it just made a dull thunk! Not very satisfying. I heard they wanted to raise money to restore it and move it to the Chandler Railroad Museum. If all else fails, they'll sell it to the highest bidder because it's loaded with asbestos insulation.

The plane was a Grumman F9 Panther if I recall correctly? I do remember it was completely gutted out and in my 8 and 9 year old days, I could crawl in the tailpipe, through the engine compartment and out through one of the 2 air intakes. Of course I was a little smaller and skinnier in those days.

The plane is gone now and a story I heard is that the city either sold it or gave it away. Then the government came to take inventory on it and all hell broke loose. I guess the government retains ownership on all military aircraft. They might "lend" it to you, but it's still theirs. Probably because it was "donated" and not sold at surplus auction?

GREENIE STICK'M CAPS!! The were the best!!! so much better than the red ones...are caps still made anymore? cap guns? might be considered too dangerous for little hands...well we sure had fun w/ them.

[trillcatz]

Originally Posted by Westside Willie

Are you sure you're not thinking of the Civic Plaza across the street?
I too saw Uriah Heep there (72?) while it was actually still being finished. The ceiling was not even installed yet, and yes the sound was atrocious!
I believe we sat in folding chairs. Nice.

however ... the tickets were about 4 bucks.

Here it is in 1975 - BTW that awful red "sculpture" now resides in the N parking lot entrance of the Burton Barr Library on Central.
The human figures that used to be on front of Symphony Hall were moved across the street in front of the Herberger.

May be... not sure now...i though it was the symphony hall and I though the acoustics we be great but not so...i remember everybody stood up and they had had a small stand of bleachers and that was it. I was sooo disappointed.

[trillcatz]

Originally Posted by SluggoF16

It would be fine today if a death metal or goth band (such as my 16-year old niece loves) played in a place with lousy acoustics. Could anyone tell the difference?

lol I know what you mean...my daughter took me to a venue where her boyfriend played the same type of music and i thought why? even iron butterfly sounded better than death metal...must be getting old lol cuz it made no sense to me.