Slow drivers get out of the HOV Lane!!!!!!! (movies, license)

[wase4711]

Originally Posted by pokrmoney

ITS DISGUSTING!! The 101 north, every single morning from 6am until 9am, and then 3pm-6pm is filled with horrendous drivers, always doing the speed limit or just over/under

Sonny boy, last time I checked, SAFE drivers tend to drive around the speed limit...

Hope your life insurance is paid up, because sooner or later, you will be a statistic

[TheFlats]

If cars are passing you on the right you are driving wrong. Period. Don't blame them because you don't understand the concept of left lane passing. Europe gets this and it is enforced by police very well.

[elcajones]

Originally Posted by TheFlats

If cars are passing you on the right you are driving wrong. Period. Don't blame them because you don't understand the concept of left lane passing. Europe gets this and it is enforced by police very well.

I agree. In general anyway.

[suzy_q2010]

Originally Posted by TheFlats

If cars are passing you on the right you are driving wrong. Period. Don't blame them because you don't understand the concept of left lane passing. Europe gets this and it is enforced by police very well.

True, but if an idiot causes an accident because he is unhappy with the way you drive, the idiot is the one who is at fault.

[TheFlats]

Depends on how the accident happens. If a car causes an accident then it causes an accident. Doesn't change the fact that left lane non-passers are in the wrong and contribute to unsafe driving conditions. If I have to pass a person on the right I am usually much more aware of my surroundings and driving defensively than the person in the left lane in la-la land.

Edit: I should say that passing on the right can be unsafe as well and I generally dislike having to do it.

[pbenjamin]

Originally Posted by TheFlats

If cars are passing you on the right you are driving wrong. Period. Don't blame them because you don't understand the concept of left lane passing. Europe gets this and it is enforced by police very well.

That's not always true. Often a freeway will get so clogged that all but the leftmost lane is going slower than you want to go. You go in the leftmost lane to get around the mess but along comes somebody behind you that wants to go even faster. Like that fine citizen who told us his car was engineered for speed. You are passing people but that's not good enough for him. After tailgating you for a while he tries another lane and eventually bullies somebody out of his way. He then passes you on the right and curses you for not getting out of his way. You of course were planning on getting out of his way once you got through passing the clog, but that wasn't good enough. When he gets where he is going he sits down at his computer and chews you out on City-Data.

[asufan]

Originally Posted by pbenjamin

That's not always true. Often a freeway will get so clogged that all but the leftmost lane is going slower than you want to go. You go in the leftmost lane to get around the mess but along comes somebody behind you that wants to go even faster. Like that fine citizen who told us his car was engineered for speed. You are passing people but that's not good enough for him. After tailgating you for a while he tries another lane and eventually bullies somebody out of his way. He then passes you on the right and curses you for not getting out of his way. You of course were planning on getting out of his way once you got through passing the clog, but that wasn't good enough. When he gets where he is going he sits down at his computer and chews you out on City-Data.

Hey that's me! but I never said anything other than my car is engineered for speed and is not unsafe at high speeds. I was thinking that again today as I was on the HOV onramp to the 101 from the South 202 "Wow I'm going 90 on this turn but it feels like 65". If you do not feel safe going 85 on the freeway that's your deal, freeway speed was cruising at 85-90 today when I was on it (the left two lanes) and like I said there is always someone coming up going faster and I get out of their way. I don't tailgate and curse people out and cut them off, let's not embellish too much

[Bates419]

So maybe just maybe it wasn't snowbirds causing this trouble as has been suggested previously.

[asufan]

Originally Posted by Bates419

So maybe just maybe it wasn't snowbirds causing this trouble as has been suggested previously.

No it usually is snowbirds that are going slow in the fast lane. Or it could be locals that have plates from Alberta, Michigan, Iowa, BC, etc. Also the aforementioned Prius driver with MPG OCD.

[TheFlats]

Originally Posted by pbenjamin

That's not always true. Often a freeway will get so clogged that all but the leftmost lane is going slower than you want to go. You go in the leftmost lane to get around the mess but along comes somebody behind you that wants to go even faster. Like that fine citizen who told us his car was engineered for speed. You are passing people but that's not good enough for him. After tailgating you for a while he tries another lane and eventually bullies somebody out of his way. He then passes you on the right and curses you for not getting out of his way. You of course were planning on getting out of his way once you got through passing the clog, but that wasn't good enough. When he gets where he is going he sits down at his computer and chews you out on City-Data.

Yes there are exceptions, such as when you are clearly in the left lane in line to pass the congestion and there's a gap on the right and someone pushes their way in the left lane line to pass. It forces people to bunch up in the left lane to not allow the car to force their way in. Or someone allows the person in which is always frustrating. It's the equivalent of a line cutter and supremely rude, just as not using the left lane to pass. Both behaviors should be decried.

Usually the freeway gets that clogged because people are not passing on the left and just instead choosing a lane and going whatever speed they feel like.

And to be clear I'm not talking about rush hour situations where every lane is clogged and brought to below 60 mph. Then it just is what it is.