Satanist to hold prayer in Phoenix (Tempe, Congress: HOA, how much, public schools)

[sargeant79]

Originally Posted by Heath V

The only confused people here are the same sex individuals who wish to get married..

C'mon Heath...what's wrong with a little dude on dude action within the confines of a legally-recognized union if the two dudes love each other?

[Arizona Mike]

Originally Posted by Potential_Landlord

So the city council (=government) gets to decide which his an appropriate religion vs. which is not??? Wow, you are the biggest BIG GOVERNMENT proponent I have ever seen in this forum. And given the history of that configuration in Europe before and for example in the Muslim world it creates today I hope this will never ever happen here. NEVER EVER.

No, common sense tells you it's ridiculous to invite people who claim to worship Satan to deliver a prayer before a government meeting. I'd believe that even if I was still an atheist.

There's something to be said for at least trying to maintain a semblance of decorum in public life.

[sargeant79]

Originally Posted by DetroitN8V

How are they any different than the Christians taking the spotlight that feel the need to say a prayer at a municipal meeting?

"Ooh, look at us, look at us! We love the bible and we're proud of it! Check out my cross necklace, moral superiority, and my Jesus tattoo! Grrrrrr!"

Originally Posted by DetroitN8V

Of course the goal is to do away with the silly invocation that has absolutely no place in a public setting. In order to do that, one most expose the absurdity of the whole thing. I say, job well done to the Satanists.

Apparently I need to spread the love around before I can rate any more of your posts positively, but right on to all of this!

I don't get down on anyone for praying to whatever god they believe in. If it works for you, that's great as long as it doesn't hurt others or inhibit the ability of others to freely practice what they believe in. But if you want to introduce religion into governmental proceedings in a country that is supposed to be welcoming to those of all beliefs, all of those beliefs deserve representation if they desire it.

[DetroitN8V]

Originally Posted by Arizona Mike

No, common sense tells you it's ridiculous to invite people who claim to worship Satan to deliver a prayer before a government meeting. I'd believe that even if I was still an atheist.

There's something to be said for at least trying to maintain a semblance of decorum in public life.

How is it any more ridiculous than inviting people that pray to a magical sky man? All of this sort of ridiculousness should be stopped.

[Heath V]

Highly inaccurate but hey, whatever makes you sleep better..

[DetroitN8V]

Originally Posted by Heath V

Highly inaccurate but hey, whatever makes you sleep better..

These vague posts aren't doing much to contribute to the discussion. To whom are you replying and regarding what?

[Heath V]

Originally Posted by DetroitN8V

These vague posts aren't doing much to contribute to the discussion. To whom are you replying and regarding what?

Sorry, you're right. I was replying to Ruby regarding the media and cults. Is some stuff fabricated and sensationalized? Sure but not all, there are unfortunately sick people in all walks of life.

[Heath V]

Originally Posted by sargeant79

C'mon Heath...what's wrong with a little dude on dude action within the confines of a legally-recognized union if the two dudes love each other?

Well when you put it like that!

[Java Jolt]

Originally Posted by Banjo71

Just as the proponents of legalizing male-male marriage or female-female marriage seek the ultimate goal of dismantling state recognition of marriage for everyone ("Get government out of the marriage business!" they cry), the ultimate objective here is to destruct, to do away with invocation before city council meetings.

The whole point of invocation before meetings, since the founding of our country, was to ask God to bless the work of the public servants. There is no point in asking Satan to "bless" your work, or to ask one's "higher self" to bless one's own work. This is how you keep the tradition of invocation without allowing the nonsense.

I would have no issue with invocation before meetings but why does it have to be based on Christian-oriented beliefs?

The last time I checked, freedom of religion includes all religions including the ones that don't worship a God per-se.

Nice way of bringing the same-sex marriage issue to the discussion which has nothing to do with the topic.

[Java Jolt]

Originally Posted by scratchie

Can I get an amen?

Amen and hallelujah.

Isn't it ironic how self-described conservatives emphasize freedom of religion but only if it's a religion they adhere to?