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Old 10-29-2021, 05:27 AM
 
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2021 was NOTHING like a typical August around here. It was one (a cool, wet one) for the ages.
If you buy into climate change (I do), then outliers are the new norm. i.e. it depends on what August shows up!

But Maroon likes to stretch reality. We all know people who see the glass as half full. In Maroon's case, his glass has evaporated... For 6 months a year. He said
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What an absolute crock.... I feel sorry for anyone who reads this and then moves here expecting heat for just an "hour or two." It stays in the triple digits past 10pm all summer. The outright lies on this board are hilarious.
Actually, was4711 said: "and, there is no such thing as a 120 degree "day; the temps get super hot for an hour or few, then it drops off pretty quickly, especially if you dont live in the core of town..after a few hours, the temps have dropped 10 degrees or more, so ignore the "120 degree days" nonsense, as its just that.."

To fact check:
1. Officially, it has hit 120 degrees a 1/2 dozen days in the past 120 years. But he is right, people toss IN "120 degree days" to make their point that it is blazing hot. Yet over the last 100+ years, it has hit 120 degrees maybe 6 times. Therefore, you can toss it out as something to think about. https://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/arts...ong%20to%20top.

2. "Especially if you don't live in the core town." If you live away from the core, then you dodge the urban island affect https://sustainability-innovation.as...%20environment.

And this is quantitatively verifiable by looking at this site:https://www.wunderground.com/history.../date/2020-8-9 I dialed on August 9th, 2020. Per the link, we had a high of 107 in the PHX Deer Vally Station (94 degrees at 10 PM). NExt on the same day, look at this graph of Skyharbor's weather station. https://www.wunderground.com/history.../date/2020-8-9 It was a high of 110. And at 10 pm, it was still 100 degrees. Or a 6-degree lower evening temps just by picking a weather station North of the 101.

Personally, I selected an area to live that is even farther away than was4711 home location away from the core city and another 600' higher in elevation dropping another 3.4 degrees (https://opensummit.com/learn/post/ho...20or%20snowing. At 10 PM at night, I will be down to around 90 degrees when it is 100 degrees at sky harbor. To some level, it depends where you live.

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Old 10-29-2021, 06:07 AM
 
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If you buy into climate change (I do), then outliers are the new norm. i.e. it depends on what August shows up!

But Maroon likes to stretch reality. We all know people who see the glass as half full. In Maroon's case, his glass has evaporated... For 6 months a year. He said

Actually, was4711 said: "and, there is no such thing as a 120 degree "day; the temps get super hot for an hour or few, then it drops off pretty quickly, especially if you dont live in the core of town..after a few hours, the temps have dropped 10 degrees or more, so ignore the "120 degree days" nonsense, as its just that.."

To fact check:
1. Officially, it has hit 120 degrees a 1/2 dozen days in the past 120 years. But he is right, people toss IN "120 degree days" to make their point that it is blazing hot. Yet over the last 100+ years, it has hit 120 degrees maybe 6 times. Therefore, you can toss it out as something to think about. https://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/arts...ong%20to%20top.

2. "Especially if you don't live in the core town." If you live away from the core, then you dodge the urban island affect https://sustainability-innovation.as...%20environment.

And this is quantitatively verifiable by looking at this site:https://www.wunderground.com/history.../date/2020-8-9 I dialed on August 9th, 2020. Per the link, we had a high of 107 in the PHX Deer Vally Station (94 degrees at 10 PM). NExt on the same day, look at this graph of Skyharbor's weather station. https://www.wunderground.com/history.../date/2020-8-9 It was a high of 110. And at 10 pm, it was still 100 degrees. Or a 6-degree lower evening temps just by picking a weather station North of the 101.

Personally, I selected an area to live that is even farther away than was4711 home location away from the core city and another 600' higher in elevation dropping another 3.4 degrees (https://opensummit.com/learn/post/ho...20or%20snowing. At 10 PM at night, I will be down to around 90 degrees when it is 100 degrees at sky harbor. To some level, it depends where you live.
LOVE your post! It is logical and makes total sense. Thank you.
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Old 10-29-2021, 06:53 AM
 
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LOVE your post! It is logical and makes total sense. Thank you.
Thanks. This site is called "City-data". Not enough people pay attention to the data. With Google on my side (google raises my IQ all the way up to 100), it's is really easy to disprove misinformation.
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Old 10-29-2021, 07:03 AM
 
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The lows are not at midnight. They’re in the morning just before sunrise.
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Old 10-29-2021, 07:30 AM
 
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The lows are not at midnight. They’re in the morning just before sunrise.
Correct. Here is a typical temperature plot of a hot summer day https://www.wunderground.com/history.../date/2020-8-9
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Old 10-29-2021, 08:02 AM
 
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Just an observation being from Colorado; 85 degrees in Metro Phoenix feels pleasant, 85 degrees in Denver feels hotter. 95 in Colorado is really hot,95 in Phoenix is just hot. 5 months of the year in Phoenix are uncomfortable if you work outside. June, July, August are hell if you work outside. If you work in an office all day and have access to a pool at night it is not bad at all. During the hot months you will see people doing things, going to work, shopping, walking a dog, going to the park, fishing at 5 to 6 AM. When it rains in the summer in Phoenix it is time to celebrate ! until the sun comes out and it is hot and humid. The Sun will burn off the humidity within a Day. When it is 112 and windy the walk from the car to the store, house Apt will make you very thirsty. You will want to take 3 or 4 showers a day and change your clothes 3 or 4 times a day. Checking the temp in July on your way to work and it is already 90, you don't ever, ever want to break down in your car, It takes some getting used to...
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Old 10-29-2021, 08:46 AM
 
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The lows are not at midnight. They’re in the morning just before sunrise.
Sorry, my mistake.
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Old 10-29-2021, 09:14 AM
 
Location: northwest valley, az
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(google raises my IQ all the way up to 100), i

hey, that's' like the temperature for 6 months every night at midnight, according to some plebe on this forum..
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Old 12-10-2021, 10:57 PM
 
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In recent years, the price of solar power systems has dropped immensely. This means that they are no longer the type of investments only suitable for rich people. You can consult solar manufacturers in your area and get a quote to have an idea of what you’re getting into.
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