Sorry but....how can you stand to live in PHX!? (Phoenix: unemployment, casino)

[krock1dk]

I can understand why many people give San Fran a better label than Phoenix: its a major international city, diversity, stunning architecture, mediterranean climate, and a much more "metropolitan" feel. But in truth, Phoenix has strong negatives as well: oppressive summer heat 5 months at a time, low incomes mixed with high cost of living, desert dryness, illegal immigrants everywhere, bad education, bad air and few good jobs. But this is the difference for me: I wont ever live in a liberal city like San Fran, so in that way Phoenix is better suited for me. But that doesnt necessarily mean I like PHX.

However, I dont understand why Phoenix people are so quick to attack people who have more favorable opinions or preferences for other cities. That would seem to me that Phoenicians have an inferiority complex. Am I wrong? Arizona nor Phoenix is for everyone. Some like it, some hate it. As is the case of San Fran. Personally, my preference is for the Midwest. But thats just me and best suited for personality. As for me...Phoenix, no. San Fran....heck no! San Fran is the eptiomoe of the socialist nanny State and is not for me.

[MotleyCrew]

We cant stand to even visit San Fran. Hardly a clean place to eat without being mauled by a homeless bum sitting right outside the front entrance. They spray the sidewalks with bleach for obvious reasons and the smell is horrible. If you consider that culture...I get it.

[applesoranges]

Originally Posted by tijlover

Having lived near Fort Myers one summer, the humidity is not all suffocating, I agree. A better word to describe it is crippling!

I've never been to Fort Meyers. It's too far down the coast. Orlando is just right and we never suffer hurricane damage because we are too far inland, which is wonderful. It's an easy going, fun place so I'm extremely happy we're there.

[applesoranges]

Originally Posted by blueeyz911

9 months of 40% humidity..... OMG that sounds horrifying. I cannot even STAND humidity at that level. So if the humidity is at 40% for 9 months then it must be hanging near the 70's or higher for the summer months. Tampa is reporting 79% humidity today. That is just disgusting. Florida is a beautiful state, I do like it but I personally could not live in those humid conditions. The no smog part would be nice though. Oh well, you can't have everything.

I agree with you about the midwest. North West Indiana/Chicago land area was horrible in the summer, 90 some degrees, 80% humidity. It really made it hard to breathe. I visited Indiana in the winter too and even though it was freezing it was SO humid. Boston is bad too. Spent many summers there as a kid and the humidity is just off the charts. This is why I live in Arizona, average humidity for Phoenix is around 28% and it gets even lower in the dry months. LOVE IT. Thank goodness we can choose where we want to live.

It's healthier than desert dryness. I could not live in Az.for the summers. Waaaaay too hot.

[Greatday]

Originally Posted by applesoranges

It's healthier than desert dryness. I could not live in Az.for the summers. Waaaaay too hot.

While YOU may not be able to live in Arizona for the summers - there are millions who do.

As for the heat? Great excuse to go boating, to enjoy our swimming pools, to go exploring Northern Arizona or to hop over to San Diego for a weekend. To enjoy that Sun Tea with lots of Ice.

We will miss you but, we will survive

[observer53]

Originally Posted by applesoranges

There is NO suffocating humidity at all. 9 months of 40% humidity is heaven compared to the 100% constant humdity we suffered in the upper midwest. Florida has NO SMOG! Best of all is has Southern hospitality. Love it.

Sorry, Lake County, FL in August IS suffocating. Been there, done that. We know you love Florida. We get it. We aren't going over to the Orlando forum talking about how we disagree with you in many respects and don't think that area is "all that". Enough said.

[shiphead]

Originally Posted by MotleyCrew

We cant stand to even visit San Fran. Hardly a clean place to eat without being mauled by a homeless bum sitting right outside the front entrance. They spray the sidewalks with bleach for obvious reasons and the smell is horrible. If you consider that culture...I get it.

lol how unfortunately true. Every time I went to SF i always wondered what that smell was.

[libsuckarse]

Originally Posted by krock1dk

I can understand why many people give San Fran a better label than Phoenix: its a major international city, diversity, stunning architecture, mediterranean climate, and a much more "metropolitan" feel. But in truth, Phoenix has strong negatives as well: oppressive summer heat 5 months at a time, low incomes mixed with high cost of living, desert dryness, illegal immigrants everywhere, bad education, bad air and few good jobs. But this is the difference for me: I wont ever live in a liberal city like San Fran, so in that way Phoenix is better suited for me. But that doesnt necessarily mean I like PHX.

However, I dont understand why Phoenix people are so quick to attack people who have more favorable opinions or preferences for other cities. That would seem to me that Phoenicians have an inferiority complex. Am I wrong? Arizona nor Phoenix is for everyone. Some like it, some hate it. As is the case of San Fran. Personally, my preference is for the Midwest. But thats just me and best suited for personality. As for me...Phoenix, no. San Fran....heck no! San Fran is the eptiomoe of the socialist nanny State and is not for me.

The OP came here to attack Phx. Drink a cup of joe and come back.

[blueeyz911]

Originally Posted by MotleyCrew

We cant stand to even visit San Fran. Hardly a clean place to eat without being mauled by a homeless bum sitting right outside the front entrance. They spray the sidewalks with bleach for obvious reasons and the smell is horrible. If you consider that culture...I get it.

I know it. When we were there, I could not believe how many homeless people were hanging out in the streets. It was MUCH worse than downtown Phoenix. There were pee stained mattresses strewn about and beggars everywhere you turn. The only nice place to go was Pier 39. At least it was clean and pleasant.

[revelated]

Originally Posted by las vegas drunk

But, I cannot understand how anyone who is successful would chose Phoenix over San Diego.

I agree, but you've got the wrong reasons. Phoenix is essentially a giant desert. San Diego, at least, has some life.

You have the ocean,

Which is dirty, shark infested, and expensive to live near...

75 degree highs in July,

Maybe on the coast (where not many people live). Not inland. Santee, for example, is up in the 91 degrees. Rancho Bernardo is in the mid 80's.

[/quote] and beautiful winters.[/quote]
Not sure where this is coming from. We've had fires smoking up the sky in the 4th quarter for about the past 5-6 years, if my memory serves me. When it's not smoked up, the sky is overcast and reminiscient of Seattle. That's not a bad thing, mind you, but not what I would call "beautiful". Except, perhaps, near the coast.

I think I'm starting to see where your perceptions are coming from - La Jolla, Del Mar, Cardiff, Coronado...those are NOT the best representations of San Diego. Drive down the 805 freeway some.