It's my life...not yours. (claim, voted, percent, prison)

[TKramar]

Originally Posted by ray1945

Really? So nonsmokers should avoid....essentially, every place where people gather? Fortunately, the laws do not agree with you....

Or establish their own private smoke-free places.

I worked in a restaurant and we DID smoke inside--we also put out ashtrays for the patrons. That was in 1999-2001.

[Rebelution]

Originally Posted by TKramar

When I smoked, it eliminated that sensation of hunger, and was cheaper than a Big Mac and fries. Two cigarettes at a dime apiece are much less than those food items.

Yea but prices for a pack of cigs are climbing up right now. It's about 7 bucks here. I can go get a whopper for 99 cents.

[TKramar]

two of those 20 cigarettes eliminated my pangs--but I agree with you about the prices. My room mate still smokes. Generics, $4 a pack. Ridiculous. Glad I quit.

[ray1945]

Originally Posted by TKramar

Or establish their own private smoke-free places.

I worked in a restaurant and we DID smoke inside--we also put out ashtrays for the patrons. That was in 1999-2001.

Yes, I remember those days. Fortunately, they are gone forever.

[Kabluey]

As long as I don't have to pay for your mistakes, whether it's obesity, lung cancer, etc. And as long as you do not use your use as an excuse for crimes that might be committed. When those things happen (i.e. with meth being a source of many identity thefts), when people expect the public to pay for their decisions, the public should have a say in whether those decisions are endorsed.

I don't think the government should pay for deliberate mistakes of adult excess. But what about fetal alcohol and drugs? Or childhood obesity? Could be a parental issue, but what about those with no parents? For those with parents, maybe parents should pay a bond to pay for the health risks their decisions or failures pose for their children. Just a theory idea. That might be deemed discriminatory or regressive. At some point, anarchy has limits.

[TKramar]

If you note the date, that was AFTER the Florida Clean Air Act. Didn't faze us.

[Kabluey]

Originally Posted by Rebelution

Yea but prices for a pack of cigs are climbing up right now. It's about 7 bucks here. I can go get a whopper for 99 cents.

Maybe pass a fat tax?

[TKramar]

Originally Posted by Kabluey

As long as I don't have to pay for your mistakes, whether it's obesity, lung cancer, etc. And as long as you do not use your use as an excuse for crimes that might be committed. When those things happen (i.e. with meth being a source of many identity thefts), when people expect the public to pay for their decisions, the public should have a say in whether those decisions are endorsed.

I don't think the government should pay for deliberate mistakes of adult excess. But what about fetal alcohol and drugs? Or childhood obesity? Could be a parental issue, but what about those with no parents? For those with parents, maybe parents should pay a bond to pay for the health risks their decisions or failures pose for their children. Just a theory idea. That might be deemed discriminatory or regressive. At some point, anarchy has limits.

How about the idea that other people are NOT your responsibility, hmm?

[ray1945]

Originally Posted by TKramar

If you note the date, that was AFTER the Florida Clean Air Act. Didn't faze us.

Times have changed - for the better.

[TKramar]

God--you are dense. If I was still smoking, and I worked there, I would STILL be smoking AT WORK. I would STILL be providing ashtrays for the patrons.

Do you get it now? We were smoking there AFTER the law had passed.