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do you remember everyone you worked with 30 years ago? how about everyone you went to school with 30 years ago? there are people who disappear into the background, and even though they are there and doing the job, no one sees them because they are not doing things that stand out.
With the internet you can find people in an instant. I served oh gee, got out 16-17 years ago? And in 15 minutes I found half a dozen people by googling my old command and people that served there.
Are you saying Bush forgot every person that ever served with him, and every person that ever served with him forgot Bush? Even with all the attention this has received over the years.
What is that smell? Oh yeah, it is the smell of BS.
I get some people are in love with Bush and just cannot believe that he would ever con us in this manner. But the facts speak for themselves.
To repeat, I never challenged YOUR loyalty. I challenged you calling a member of the National Guard a coward.
"records can be altered", is that all you base all your information on.
I have posted statements from the Air national Guard Commander, and you question him. Another snipe at a veteren.
It has now become clear. You have called him a coward for not serving, then you say having gotten an Honorable Discharge is not enough for you.
You don't respect him. I can live with that but, you showed your true colors with that statement, "All that you say is has an honorable discharge but that still does not make him honorable in many veterans eyes."
Nothing anybody posts with data to back it up will be enough for you because of your hate.
I'm done with you.
When did I question the guard commander? I SAID THAT BUSH WAS A COWARD!!! And I stand by my word "Not everyone who gets an honorable discharge served honorably" The only "data" that backs up his claim is questionable at most. I'm relying on common sense.
1. No one remembers him nor can he verify any of his "training buddies" (you served I bet that you could find some poeple that remember you)
2. His inability to obtain any rank higher than 1Lt (this even you cannot explain)
3. Military records are kept in St Louis why are certain parts of his "missing" (I bet yours are there in completion)
If all that you have is his discharge certificate (that is not the same as his DD214) you have less information than I have.
If you can logically explain these three items (and back them up) I will gladly admit that I'm wrong and drop the subject
do you remember everyone you worked with 30 years ago? how about everyone you went to school with 30 years ago? there are people who disappear into the background, and even though they are there and doing the job, no one sees them because they are not doing things that stand out.
Believe me if you served with someone in that type of situation YOU WILL remember them. Especially a pilot, If someone taught you something as valuable as flying an aircraft would'nt you at least remember their name?
Hell, I still remember guys from basic training 20+ years ago
Believe me if you served with someone in that type of situation YOU WILL remember them. Especially a pilot, If someone taught you something as valuable as flying an aircraft would'nt you at least remember their name?
Hell, I still remember guys from basic training 20+ years ago
What a lot of civilians do not understand is people that served typically remember these bonds that are formed from decades ago. I get how a civilian might not get it. But I honestly do not understand how people that were in the military are still Bush apologists.
What a lot of civilians do not understand is people that served typically remember these bonds that are formed from decades ago. I get how a civilian might not get it. But I honestly do not understand how people that were in the military are still Bush apologists.
That is the BEST thing about being in the military.....The lifelong bonds
That really burns my farts that REAL military men and women defend that overpriviledged prick!
I can tell you didn't read the previos posts. I linked to an article detailing the servicemen and women who were wounded and died in Viet Nam that were reservists and guardsmen.
Another Bush hater who cannot back up thier lies with facts. Just B.S.
Nope, just referring to GWB, who, because he was priviledged, "served" in the ANG stateside. Which makes him a REMF.
He didn't step one toenail in Nam.
I don't even think he could point out Viet Nam on a map.
If Gore's daddy used his money and privilege to shuffle his kid to a non-combat post while thousands were getting blown apart all over South East Asia, then, yes.
Ok, even if he tried and failed the fact remained that he STILL SERVED being in vietnam although reluctanly still makes you a credible veteran
Bush never got near Viet Nam, dude. That was the whole idea.
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