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Old 07-24-2010, 11:58 PM
 
Location: Tampa (by way of Omaha)
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Once you post a list major accomplishments by the dems in the last 3 1/2 years that I asked for many days ago, then we can talk about everything they HAVE NOT done as promised.
A) Other than the fact you don't know jack ****, why are you changing the topic to avoid the debate?

B) I'm not asking you to tell me what they haven't followed through on. I'm asking you to tell me what specific legislation(s) the Democrats pushed through that resulted in the economic collapse.

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I never said anything was instantaneous
Actually that is exactly what you implied when you mentioned the Democrats taking over in 2006 (not 2007 FYI) and drew conclusions to the economic collapse at the end of 2007.

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less jobs, more foreclosures, more homeless, more money being spent on welfare then ever before
You have no trouble identifying the "effect", it's that "cause" part you seem to have real trouble with.
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Old 07-25-2010, 02:56 AM
 
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Heres a list of some of Obamas and Democrats accomplishments in the last year and a half You may not agree that all are to your liking but thats the way the political nature of the beast works,no matter what you do half the people wont like it.=

1. Ordered all federal agencies to undertake a study and make recommendations for ways to cut spending;
2. Ordered a review of all federal operations to identify and cut wasteful spending and practices;
3. Instituted enforcements for equal pay for women;
4. Beginning the withdrawal of US troops from Iraq;
5. Families of fallen soldiers have expenses covered to be on hand when the body arrives at Dover A.F.B.;
6. Ended media “blackout” on war casualties; reporting full information;
7. Ended media “blackout” on covering the return of fallen soldiers to Dover A.F.B.; the media is now permitted to do so pending adherence to respectful rules and approval of fallen soldier’s family;
8. The White House and federal government are respecting the Freedom of Information Act;
9. Instructed all federal agencies to promote openness and transparency as much as possible;
10. Limits on lobbyists’ access to the White House;
11. Limits on White House aides working for lobbyists after their tenure in the administration;
12. Ended the previous “stop-loss” policy that kept soldiers in Iraq/Afghanistan longer than their enlistment date;
13. Phasing out the expensive F-22 war plane and other outdated weapons systems, which weren’t even used or needed in Iraq/Afghanistan;
14. Removed restrictions on embryonic stem-cell research;
15. Federal support for stem-cell and new biomedical research;
16. New federal funding for science and research labs;
17. States are permitted to enact federal fuel efficiency standards above federal standards;
18. Increased infrastructure spending (roads, bridges, power plants…) after years of neglect;
19. Funds for high-speed, broadband Internet access to K-12 schools;
20. New funds for school construction;
21. The prison at Guantanamo Bay is being phased out;
22. US Auto industry rescue plan;
23. Housing rescue plan;
24. $789 billion economic stimulus plan;
25. The public can meet with federal housing insurers to refinance (the new plan can be completed in one day) a mortgage if they are having trouble paying;
26. US financial and banking rescue plan;
27. The “secret detention” facilities in Eastern Europe and elsewhere are being closed;
28. Ended the previous policy; the US now has a no torture policy and is in compliance with the Geneva Convention standards;
29. Better body armor is now being provided to our troops;
30. The missile defense program is being cut by $1.4 billion in 2010;
31. Restarted the nuclear non-proliferation talks and building back up the nuclear inspection infrastructure/protocols;
32. Reengaged in the treaties/agreements to protect the Antarctic;
33. Reengaged in the agreements/talks on global warming and greenhouse gas emissions;
34. Visited more countries and met with more world leaders than any president in his first six months in office;
35. Successful release of US captain held by Somali pirates; authorized the SEALS to do their job;
36. US Navy increasing patrols off Somali coast;
37. Attractive tax write-offs for those who buy hybrid automobiles;
38. “Cash for clunkers” program offers vouchers to trade in fuel inefficient, polluting old cars for new cars; stimulates auto sales;
39. Announced plans to purchase fuel efficient American-made fleet for the federal government;
40. Expanded the SCHIP program to cover health care for 4 million more children;
41. Signed national service legislation; expanded national youth service program;
42. Instituted a new policy on Cuba, allowing Cuban families to return “home” to visit loved ones;
43. Ended the previous policy of not regulating and labeling carbon dioxide emissions;
44. Expanding vaccination programs;
45. Immediate and efficient response to the floods in North Dakota and other natural disasters;
46. Closed offshore tax safe havens;
47. Negotiated deal with Swiss banks to permit US government to gain access to records of tax evaders and criminals;
48. Ended the previous policy of offering tax benefits to corporations who outsource American jobs; the new policy is to promote in-sourcing to bring jobs back;
49. Ended the previous practice of protecting credit card companies; in place of it are new consumer protections from credit card industry’s predatory practices;
50. Energy producing plants must begin preparing to produce 15% of their energy from renewable sources;
51. Lower drug costs for seniors;
52. Ended the previous practice of forbidding Medicare from negotiating with drug manufacturers for cheaper drugs; the federal government is now realizing hundreds of millions in savings;
53. Increasing pay and benefits for military personnel;
54. Improved housing for military personnel;
55. Initiating a new policy to promote federal hiring of military spouses;
56. Improved conditions at Walter Reed Military Hospital and other military hospitals;
57. Increasing student loans;
58. Increasing opportunities in AmeriCorps program;
59. Sent envoys to Middle East and other parts of the world that had been neglected for years; reengaging in multilateral and bilateral talks and diplomacy;
60. Established a new cyber security office;
61. Beginning the process of reforming and restructuring the military 20 years after the Cold War to a more modern fighting force… this includes new procurement policies, increasing size of military, new technology and cyber units and operations, etc.;
62. Ended previous policy of awarding no-bid defense contracts;
63. Ordered a review of hurricane and natural disaster preparedness;
64. Established a National Performance Officer charged with saving the federal government money and making federal operations more efficient;
65. Students struggling to make college loan payments can have their loans refinanced;
66. Improving benefits for veterans;
67. Many more press conferences and town halls and much more media access than previous administration;
68. Instituted a new focus on mortgage fraud;
69. The FDA is now regulating tobacco;
70. Ended previous policy of cutting the FDA and circumventing FDA rules;
71. Ended previous practice of having White House aides rewrite scientific and environmental rules, regulations, and reports;
72. Authorized discussions with North Korea and private mission by Pres. Bill Clinton to secure the release of two Americans held in prisons;
73. Authorized discussions with Myanmar and mission by Sen. Jim Webb to secure the release of an American held captive;
74. Making more loans available to small businesses;
75. Established independent commission to make recommendations on slowing the costs of Medicare;
76. Appointment of first Latina to the Supreme Court;
77. Authorized construction/opening of additional health centers to care for veterans;
78. Limited salaries of senior White House aides; cut to $100,000;
79. Renewed loan guarantees for Israel;
80. Changed the failing/status quo military command in Afghanistan;
81. Deployed additional troops to Afghanistan;
82. New Afghan War policy that limits aerial bombing and prioritizes aid, development of infrastructure, diplomacy, and good government practices by Afghans;
83. Announced the long-term development of a national energy grid with renewable sources and cleaner, efficient energy production;
84. Returned money authorized for refurbishment of White House offices and private living quarters;
85. Paid for redecorations of White House living quarters out of his own pocket;
86. Held first Seder in White House;
87. Attempting to reform the nation’s healthcare system which is the most expensive in the world yet leaves almost 50 million without health insurance and millions more underinsured;
88. Has put the ball in play for comprehensive immigration reform;
89. Has announced his intention to push for energy reform; and
90. Has announced his intention to push for education reform.
Oh, and he built a swing set for the girls outside the Oval Office!
[Robert P. Watson, Ph.D. is Coordinator of American Studies at Lynn University in Boca Raton, Florida. This list covers Obama's presidency through August, 2009.]
Betty DuBose Hamilton’s additions:
91. Signed the Lilly Ledbetter fair pay act.
92. Discovery and publicizing of Medicare fraud, making the public more aware of not turning a blind eye to such fraud.

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Old 07-25-2010, 03:02 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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30. The missile defense program is being cut by $1.4 billion in 2010

I really am getting too tired to go through all of these so called accomplishments-but you call #30 an accomplishment? Surely you jest.
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Old 07-25-2010, 04:42 AM
 
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The list Wasnt posted with the idea of debating every point but to answer the call for what the Democrats have done since taking power,we'll assume you dont like number 30,i happen to think they all have merit.
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Old 07-25-2010, 05:47 AM
 
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So Jambo........you think that printing new money is the way out of this mess? You agree that there is no need to be fiscally conservative?
Of course there is a need to be fiscally conservative but how come we didn't hear a peep out of the rightwing when Dubya was in power? He hid the cost of the two wars in Suplemental bills that weren't reflected in the budget. Once Obama did include the cost of the wars in his budget of course the deficit skyrocketed!
As for Obama able to relate to people strugling to pay their bills he wasn't born with a silver spoon in his mouth and had to work to pay off their student loans.
You want out of touch? Daddy Bush going to a supermarket and not having any idea what a gallon of milk cost!
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Old 07-25-2010, 07:23 AM
 
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Oh, I see. Yet nobody complained over the fact that GW Bush took the equivalent of two years of vacation during the entire eight years he was elected president.
Yes, but D*ck Cheney NEVER stopped working.
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Old 07-26-2010, 08:56 PM
 
Location: Omaha, NE
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Yes, but D*ck Cheney NEVER stopped working.
The difference is that no one voted for Dick Cheney.
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Old 07-26-2010, 09:03 PM
 
Location: Copiague, NY
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Originally Posted by pommysmommy View Post
He is a lying sack of excrement.
Is that, lying (like lying to US) or lying, (like on the sidewalk)?
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Old 07-26-2010, 09:06 PM
 
Location: Copiague, NY
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Yes, but D*ck Cheney NEVER stopped working.
There, my friend, is the root of America's problem today!
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