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Well, hate to break it with you, but nobody will charge them with murder because they can't. Any any prosecutor bringing that charged would get Disbarred.
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This is exactly why I quit working in the arena of Law. It really isn't to protect the innocent as much as people want to think.
Just because I said it was Murder and still sticking to that. Doesn't mean they lawfully can be charged with Murder. As you know backroom deals are always made on high profile cases.
Clearly the kids who pulled the stunt were not thinking, no doubt they didn't think he would kill himself, who knows they might have not had anything agianst him and thought this was funny, no one has established a motive yet.
It was stupid, it was cruel but the intent is unknown at this time to the public.
I really don't care what the intent was. It was wrong! Just as I don't care about the 'intent' of the fool who hit my son in the street and drove off, leaving him for dead. (He survived and is fine now.)
I believe what the roommate and his girlfriend did was a felony, they will probably get 1-5 years in prison.
I know 18 years old is supposed to be considered an adult, but they are still kids, still very immature.
How people cannot see the tragic nature of this event escapes me. what the two kids did by recording the boy and broadcasting it live on the internet was a disgusting and callus act by a couple of thoughtless bullies. I hope both of these kids get whatever the maximum punishment there is. It may sound harsh to some folks, but I think these two kids need to be made an example of, so we can end this type of crap.
But - that's getting on thin ice when celebrities like Paris Hilton launch their whole career on the release of sex videos on the internet. If you make it a felony to release a supposedly secret sex video then you'd have make sex videos a felony.
It would have to be illegal to post any sex video until all the proper consents are signed but the majority of sex videos are posted by the individuals involved in them themselves.
That's all fine with me - but the porn people aren't going to like that.
From what I've gathered from this story and the two people that were involved in posting the video, I don't see this as a case where the guy was being bullied for being gay.
I think the students probably thought it would be a funny prank without really thinking about the consequences of their actions. I'm will to bet they have much regret and shame for what has happened, but unfortunately for them their lives are never going to be the same.
They'll have to pay for whatever crimes they did commit, though I doubt any kind of manslaughter or hate crimes will stick in this case, and they'll have to live with the fact that someone took their life because of their actions for the rest of their lives.
Yes - that's most likely what it was - they thought it would be funny - and it ended up tragically. If they posted something non-sexual without permission, would it also be a crime? Or is it because it was sexual when porn is no longer viewed as anything wrong? Or was it especially wrong because it was homosexual? Would it be different if it had been a video of heterosexuals?
It's the age we live in - all computers now come with webcams, and cell phones come with cameras and social media allows people to post things they film.
What can be done to stop this kind of thing? The minute someone tries to make a law requiring the consent of everyone in a video before it can be posted, someone else will cry about freedom of speech.
Where should the limits be? And it's very unlikely the culprits in this intended for him to commit suicide.
I think everyone on all political sides should agree that what the roommate did was very wrong and it is a shame that the kid killed himself.
I think we all agree with that.
But at some point people (bullied or not) should take responsibility for their own actions.
Saying the bullies killed him is extreme, inaccurate, and inflammatory. Saying people should just put up with bullying is insensitive and unrealistic.
In this case, it hardly sounds like a case of systemic bullying - just the one incident that could have even been a prank amongst friends (not necessarily gay bashing). Sounds like something me and my friends would have done in college.
I say this as someone who was bullied as a kid for my race, for growing up in a different country, for being smart, and then later in high school for being gay. Yeah, people can be a-holes and make your life difficult. Parents can be insensitive and unsupportive. But that doesn't mean you have to kill yourself.
One solution I propose would be for those who are or were bullied and got over it to stand up and tell these kids that life isn't always going to be this way or give them coping mechanisms that don't involve self-destructive behavior. I think some gay organization has an "It gets better" or something campaign going on right now.
Dont even try to debate this with him. He cant keep on subject, and gets hysterical.
As someone else on this thread observed, some of the posters here have all the sensitivity of a rabid rottweiler, not to mention they have the moral depth of a frying pan.
Is their morality even that deep? I would have said the moral depth of a pancake skittle.
For what? He put a camera in his own dorm room. As for the suicide...did he push him off the bridge?
This was a horrible situation, and is very sad. I'm just not sure what the roommate can be prosecuted for. Is it a crime to put a camera in your own room?
A piano teacher in his sixties who gave lessons in his house went to jail in New Jersey last year after it was discovered he had been taping children students in his bathroom for decades. He had a basement full of videotapes. He'd kept them all. He had hidden cameras all over his bathroom to catch different angles.
He also touched the kids inappropriately from time to time once one finally ratted him out, adult women were popping up like daisies to say he'd done the same to them 20, 25 years ago.
Yup, it's against the law to use a camera to invade someone else's privacy, in your own home or anywhere else. (This same guy also had tape of other people's children going down slides at waterparks and whatnot--the legs open is what turned him on--look out for pervs videotaping your kids in places like that, too!)
I believe what the roommate and his girlfriend did was a felony, they will probably get 1-5 years in prison.
I know 18 years old is supposed to be considered an adult, but they are still kids, still very immature.
How people cannot see the tragic nature of this event escapes me. what the two kids did by recording the boy and broadcasting it live on the internet was a disgusting and callus act by a couple of thoughtless bullies. I hope both of these kids get whatever the maximum punishment there is. It may sound harsh to some folks, but I think these two kids need to be made an example of, so we can end this type of crap.[/quote]
I think that's the only good that can come out of this--that some other kid will be spared the humiliation at the hands of miscreants who think their meanness is humorous.
IDK it must be me but I'll never understand the idea of being outed and someone being so wrecked over it they kill themselves.
You're gay, SO WHAT!! This isn't the stone age or even the 50's or even 20 years ago. It's really not a big deal anymore. Now I know someone is going to read half the post and go crazy about "how do you know what he's going through!!" and yes they'd be right I don't but still, so you have a few weird holidays and bringing your BF over for the first time is going to be stressful but is it really worth killing youself over?
This may not be the stone age, but there are still too many in this world whose attitudes belong there. And I'm talking about the attitudes of so-called loved ones that would drive a young man to guard his personal life to the point where having it posted to the internet would completely destroy him. Not knowing this young man's family, I don't know what their beliefs about homosexuality or anything else might be. But the fact that he chose not to confront them tells me they didn't know he was gay and that knowing their attitudes (as only a child of theirs could know) he didn't want them to know. And the posting of that video to the internet meant that, despite his wishes, they were likely to find out. Obviously he thought suicide was preferable to living with his parents having that knowledge at this time.
Greetings,
This is exactly why I quit working in the arena of Law. It really isn't to protect the innocent as much as people want to think.
Just because I said it was Murder and still sticking to that. Doesn't mean they lawfully can be charged with Murder. As you know backroom deals are always made on high profile cases.
Just sit back and see what the outcome is.
But you do realize, that in no way shape or form could this be murder, right?
If you've worked in the legal field, you know what murder is. Suicide is not murder.
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