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Old 09-30-2010, 12:11 PM
 
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The question is forseeability. Would a normal, objective person have killed themself over this? No.
Why is the question forseeability?
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Old 09-30-2010, 12:15 PM
 
Location: Arlington, VA
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Why is the question forseeability?
Because if the family, etc try to sue the roommate, foreeability is an issue if you allege negligence. They will want to allege a negligent act resulting in the death, and for that, you need to prove proximate cause. It is not forseeable that someone in this day and age would commit suicide over a sex video.
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Old 09-30-2010, 12:16 PM
 
Location: Geneva, IL
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Something tells me had it been a conservative religious figure being filmed without his permission, you wouldn't be shouting about privacy being invaded.
Would the law have suddenly changed under those circumstances? Would I be shouting about his privacy being invaded? Yes. Would I be laughing at the lie they had been caught in? Yes. Let's not forget "people in glass houses" which does not apply to this topic.
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Old 09-30-2010, 12:17 PM
 
Location: Arlington, VA
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So you're a psychic who can see into the future, as well as a lawyer, hmmm? You actually don't know what anyone would say or do in your imaginary scenarios, because you don't actually know any of us. You're just trying to use innuendo to discredit people. Not a very nice thing to do. Not a very good argumentative strategy, either.
So because a camera was used, it suddenly becomes a horrible thing, instead of a person to a private event later ratting on the other person? That's somehow a noble thing to do?
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Old 09-30-2010, 12:18 PM
 
Location: Arlington, VA
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Would the law have suddenly changed under those circumstances? Would I be shouting about his privacy being invaded? Yes. Would I be laughing at the lie they had been caught in? Yes. Let's not forget "people in glass houses" which does not apply to this topic.
So you admit you would be laughing at a pastor who was filmed having gay sex and who kills himself, because he's a hypocrite. That doesn't sound like you are that outraged about his violation of privacy or the loss of his life.
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Old 09-30-2010, 12:19 PM
 
Location: Geneva, IL
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So you admit you would be laughing at a pastor who was filmed having gay sex and who kills himself, because he's a hypocrite. That doesn't sound like you are that outraged about his violation of privacy or the loss of his life.
In your scenario you did not say someone who killed themselves. Do NOT twist my words.
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Old 09-30-2010, 12:20 PM
 
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Because if the family, etc try to sue the roommate, foreeability is an issue if you allege negligence. They will want to allege a negligent act resulting in the death, and for that, you need to prove proximate cause. It is not forseeable that someone in this day and age would commit suicide over a sex video.
IF the family tries to sue the roommate, then forseeability becomes an issue. But for the purposes of the discussion on this thread, why would forseeability be an issue?
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Old 09-30-2010, 12:23 PM
 
Location: Arlington, VA
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In your scenario you did not say someone who killed themselves. Do NOT twist my words.
Was not the original situation the guy kills himself? I changed the scenario where he was an anti gay pastor. You know what I am talking about.
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Old 09-30-2010, 12:23 PM
 
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So because a camera was used, it suddenly becomes a horrible thing, instead of a person to a private event later ratting on the other person? That's somehow a noble thing to do?
A camera was used, and the incident was made available to millions of viewers. So, in terms of scale, the invasion of privacy in this case was indeed much greater than gossip about another person. I'm not sure what you are referring to as a "noble" act? I characterized the entire situation as a TRAGEDY all round, and never even intimated that anyone has acted nobly in this situation.
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Old 09-30-2010, 12:24 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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So because a camera was used, it suddenly becomes a horrible thing, instead of a person to a private event later ratting on the other person? That's somehow a noble thing to do?
I do not see where the poster you quoted said that. Of course broadcasting something over the WWW is "worse" than simply telling your other dormmates. Anyone with access to the web can see it.

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As a health professional, I have a really hard time with these suicide threads. Many people on this thread are demonstrating that they don't know jack about suicide.

I think this event is terribly sad.
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