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Old 11-20-2010, 09:59 PM
 
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You don't think the humilation and having to get on the flight all wet wasn't worth calling it wrong? The agents need to be trained before they are let loose on the public. I wonder how many would pass the class if they had to have competent training?
For the last time, no special training is required to do a pat down on an ostomy passenger. Go to a private screening area and get the pat down after you show them the ostomy bab.
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Old 11-20-2010, 10:00 PM
 
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For the last time, no special training is required to do a pat down on an ostomy passenger. Go to a private screening area and get the pat down after you show them the ostomy bab.
He did, and the agent knocked it loose. Clearly there is some training to be had when dealing with bags potentially loaded with biohazardous body fluids.
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Old 11-20-2010, 10:02 PM
 
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He did, and the agent knocked it loose. Clearly there is some training to be had when dealing with bags potentially loaded with biohazardous body fluids.
You do know that urine is not considered a biohazard unless it is bloody right?
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Old 11-20-2010, 10:04 PM
 
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You do know that urine is not considered a biohazard unless it is bloody right?
I am well versed in bloodborne pathogens, do you know if the urine was bloody? Did you also happen to notice in my post were I wrote POTENTIALLY?
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Old 11-20-2010, 10:06 PM
 
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I am well versed in bloodborne pathogens, do you know if the urine was bloody? Did you also happen to notice in my post were I wrote POTENTIALLY?
Let's assume that the urine in the bag was not bloody. Could this man have avoided this incident by emptying his bag prior to going through security?
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Old 11-20-2010, 10:12 PM
 
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Let's assume that the urine in the bag was not bloody. Could this man have avoided this incident by emptying his bag prior to going through security?
Thats possible, however it may not have prevented the TSA agent from knocking loose his bag.

Lets also assume that the man doesn't have VRE or a MRSA urinary tract infection, if that were the case are we needlessly exposing the "brave men and women" of the TSA to infection by not training them to properly handle these devices?
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Old 11-20-2010, 10:21 PM
 
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Let's assume that the urine in the bag was not bloody. Could this man have avoided this incident by emptying his bag prior to going through security?
No, he could not have.

Let's talk about medical knowledge, which you claim to have: urine leaks continuously from a urostomy site. Period. If the bag or the "flange" becomes detached, the urine is going to pour out.

Urine may contain blood that is not visible to the naked eye. Furthermore, even if this man's urostomy had contained frank bloody urine, it wouldn't have stopped the TSA agent from making his blunder, so your point is moot. And yet further, urine can contain bacteria. One can never assume that urine is safe.

You repeatedly demonstrate that you do not have much medical knowledge at all.
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Old 11-20-2010, 10:25 PM
 
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Thats possible, however it may not have prevented the TSA agent from knocking loose his bag.

Lets also assume that the man doesn't have VRE or a MRSA urinary tract infection, if that were the case are we needlessly exposing the "brave men and women" of the TSA to infection by not training them to properly handle these devices?
If this man had VRE or MRSA he would have the obligation of notifying the TSA agents.
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Old 11-20-2010, 10:27 PM
 
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No, he could not have.

Let's talk about medical knowledge, which you claim to have: urine leaks continuously from a urostomy site. Period. If the bag or the "flange" becomes detached, the urine is going to pour out.

Urine may contain blood that is not visible to the naked eye. Furthermore, even if this man's urostomy had contained frank bloody urine, it wouldn't have stopped the TSA agent from making his blunder, so your point is moot. And yet further, urine can contain bacteria. One can never assume that urine is safe.

You repeatedly demonstrate that you do not have much medical knowledge at all.
You are mistaken about my knowledge of this subject. Best wishes and blessings to you.
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Old 11-20-2010, 10:29 PM
 
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If this man had VRE or MRSA he would have the obligation of notifying the TSA agents.

Bwahahahahaaaaa! And the TSA agents would know what those are? The TSA agent in this story didn't even have the good sense enough to listen to the man try to explain about a concrete, tangible item stuck to his body, but you expect them to understand all the ramifications of difficult-to-eradicate infectious agents?
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