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Turkey has similar jeans factories, no wonder it is called the China of Europe.
I am really sorry for those people working and living there, another reason to buy only as little stuff as necessary. I buy a pair of quality pants every 5 years or so. Unfortunately, it is a bit difficult to find out which brands accept such terrible working conditions and which don't. The brand and price don't necessarily tell us how the pants were made, which in some cases makes you wonder where all the money goes...
They are jobs we had in the USA that people fed their families with for decades. Yes I want our Nation to grow some balls and take those jobs back! Hell, I worked some of them before people like clinton and bush h sent them to china! The crap they left us with doesn't pay enough!
It's not gonna happen.
The biggest and most wealthy corproations in the world are driven by their ever expanding greed to make the China the greatest economic power in world history.
The current GDP per capita in the United States is $46,000 per person. The current GDP per capita in China is $6,700 per person. Based on the current population of 1.3 billion people if China were the raise its per capita GDP rose to just half of what the current per capita GDP of the United States the Chinese overall GDP would be $29.9 TRILLION dollars a year. That is TWICE the current American GDP. No self respecting money hungry C.E.O is going to pass up an opportunity like that.
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Today? I don't know. I would like to have the option to work in a factory that follow regulation, that's for sure. Not a burger-flipping job in danger being taken over by illegal mexicans.
In the past? We sure did! My great-grandmother worked that kind of job a hundred years ago. She began working in a South Carolina textile mill at 7 years old. She got paid about 25 cents a day to help feed the family.
The dirty secret behind jeans and bras | Greenpeace East Asia (http://www.greenpeace.org/eastasia/news/textile-pollution-xintang-gurao - broken link)
Thank god for globalization. I wouldn't know what I'll do if I had to deal with pollution like this in my town. I think we should export more dirty jobs to other countries.
Truth is we have many people with drug problems on the dole or streets that should be doing these jobs in our country but refuse because they think they shouldn't work unless they get X amount of pay.
Greatly reduce our welfare state and those who are too good to work will be forced to perform.
They are like trying to get the kids to do homework. All kids like doing the fun things and to avoid working, for those on the dole it mostly never stopped.
Then also keep in mind most in China get paid $100 a month.
It is past time to install countervailing tariffs to eliminate the price advantage and profits attributable to differences in wages, environmental cleanup and subsidy. We need an even trading field far more than a "Flat Earth" based “Free†trade. China is using protective tariffs and slave labor to damage us to the point of no return.
It is past time to install countervailing tariffs to eliminate the price advantage and profits attributable to differences in wages, environmental cleanup and subsidy. We need an even trading field far more than a "Flat Earth" based “Free†trade. China is using protective tariffs and slave labor to damage us to the point of no return.
You'll NEVER GET IT!
The corporations run the United States government and there isn't a corporation in America that wants to raise its cost with a tariff.
The numerous posts here on CD that allow us a view into the thinking and fears of others in regard to our present economic situation is good evidence that Americans don't really think in terms of modern day economics . A lot has been said about the innate evils of both capitalism and socialism, but now we see a new ism looming up from the scholarly environs of US political/economic think tanks, Corporatism has arrived as our new economic ism. A hybrid of socialism and capitalism with a low tolerance for free enterprise, it combines the power of capital with the muscle of military might, both factors are bringing home the bacon to an elite upper class who really have no allegiance to any nation. I've been wondering for some time why we say "we" when we are talking about American jobs and products, "we" shouldn't be exporting "our" jobs, "we" shouldn't give away "our" technology to foreign manufacturers, there's a long list of the we's but it should be clear by now that corporatism doesn't include us, "we" (workers) are no longer the dominant factor in the US economic picture.
The advent of machine technology coupled with a globally leveled labor market means we are now becoming economically irrelevant, the goods produced in China and other now dominant labor markets don't always end up in the US, other nations are now competing not just for our jobs but also for the end products of their own labor. Yes the US is still a huge market for goods from around the globe but that is changing, and time is all it takes to complete certain cyclical economic shifts, after all, "we" haven't been around all that long in comparison to nations such as India and China. This is an irreversible trend, why? Because the way forward for the largest of US corporations has been determined to include the entire world as one singular economic entity, this is the new world order, not the cloak and dagger kind of one world government that the nuts in foil hats were fearing, I doubt that most of them even knew the tin foil was made in China or that the black helicopters they were watching for were being made from Euro parts with immigrant labor from Salvador or Somalia.
"We" have not had much of a say in the workings of our own government for some time now, "we" can't just tell our government that we want to punish the producing nations for their irreverent disregard for the eco system, nor can we demand of our government that it level the playing field of labor cost, we can't demand these things with any success because corporatism is a consortium of public and private interests wherein the government is subjugated to corporate power. Capital is simply the wealth that can drive the rest of an economies factors, who's economy? It doesn't matter to the capitalist, all economies are now equal in the eye of the capitalist/corporatist, there is nothing American about capital, it has no national affiliation, it travels the globe in search of the other necessary ingredients such as labor and raw resources in order to parlay them into profits. This not news to the student of economics, but in spite of the obvious lacking of humanity in this economic theory it has gained a huge and loyal following. Most people think of capitalism and free enterprise as being somehow united at the hip, but the true nature of modern day capital is to monopolize markets not open them to any real competition, in fact this tendency of capital to drift towards monopoly is the cornerstone of corporatism, without the will of a nations people brought to bear on capital it is automatically rendered to the most powerful entities; corporations. I'm not holding my breath and hoping for change.
What's going on in China and India is not much different from what was going on in Europe during industrialization. Places such as Manchester were hell.
The biggest and most wealthy corproations in the world are driven by their ever expanding greed to make the China the greatest economic power in world history.
Sorry but you're sadly mistaken, Joe consumer walks into Wal-Mart and buys the cheapest product they can. To produce these products cheaply the only choice is overseas manufacturing. Are you willing to pay $280 for a pair of boots like me? That is what a quality Made in the USA pair of boots cost.
These corporations and business's have no choice, either cut costs or they will get buried and go bankrupt and that is just the facts.
The dirty secret behind jeans and bras | Greenpeace East Asia (http://www.greenpeace.org/eastasia/news/textile-pollution-xintang-gurao - broken link)
Thank god for globalization. I wouldn't know what I'll do if I had to deal with pollution like this in my town. I think we should export more dirty jobs to other countries.
If they were done here, they'd have to be done safely and in controlled conditions, provide protection for the workers and the neighboring environment. All that would cost money, which is why they aren't here.
Thank god there are people so desperate in the world that they are willing to be corn-holed by foreign profiteers just to survive.
Also, the last time I checked, we all lived on 1 planet. It would be foolish to assume the polution of one area can't effect another just because of their distance from each other. Things don't always hapen on the scale of a single human lifetime, but someday, somebody is gonna the pay the price.
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