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Old 12-24-2010, 02:25 AM
 
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This is a phenomenon I've never really understood is why those that are heavily christian, are also heavily republicans. If you really think about it besides abortion views, Jesus was a liberal. Not a leftest republican or democrat, but a full-blown green party tree hugging flaming liberal.
The teachings are about living frugally, to help the poor, to only live with what you need and give your unneeded wealth away. To open your doors to the needy and that greed is evil. Even how Jesus is depicted in looking, long hair, beard, sandals, pretty much exactly like hippies of the 60's.
It just seems to make sense that if you are a true follower of the bible, you would be a hardcore liberal, not a conservative.

1) Frugality...conservatively

2) Help the poor...republicans give more to the caharities of their Choice

3) Give unneeded wealth away...Al Gore anyone???

4) Open doors to the needy...Again,charity

5) Greed is evil...As in sitting on your duff expecting someone else to work to take care of you?

Didn't Jesus promote that we should all take personal responsibilty? Did you see Jesus promoting sub-cultures that promote division?

Would Jesus promote destroying cars that the less fortunate could use to better themselves to promote a company? Is that being frugal or helping the poor?

This has been the most liberal administration I can remember and all I see is them directing money to elite groups that will ultimately cost the poor more money. It was actually acknowledged today that the assumption is that those buying an electric car will also have a traditional car to use for normal use. Poor people are expected to pay $40,000 for an electric car, plus own a spare traditional car and pay taxes and maintain both. That's what I call "opening doors".

There seems to be a common misconception that by GIVING people everything you are helping them. Jesus promoted teaching a man to fish so he could take care of himself, not catching it, cleaning it, and stocking his freezer full of it.
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Old 12-24-2010, 02:32 AM
 
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The Christians in cities like Los Angeles are heavily Democratic and among certain denominations such as Black Baptist churches and Latino Catholic churches you would likely not find one person who would ever vote for a Republican. Among white folks in LA the majority are the most liberal in the city and many are Episcopalians and Jews.
That is true, Christians and Democrats are not at odds, but the original question was (and still is) - why do Republicans specifically choose to have someone like JC who was clearly a liberal hippy as their front man?
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Old 12-24-2010, 04:15 AM
 
Location: Texas
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There is nothing in the Bible that suggests Jesus was a liberal. Nothing.

If you read the Bible Jesus was anti-government. He had no use for it. After all, it was government trying to kill him before he was born, tried to jail him when he was alive and ended up executing him.

Please reference a verse in the Bible that would support the idea that Jesus was a liberal.
Jesus was anti-government? Where on earth did you get that idea?
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Old 12-24-2010, 04:16 AM
 
Location: Texas
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The Bible says that mortal governments are run by Satan.

It does? Where?
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Old 12-24-2010, 04:29 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Why are both parties, and just about every conceivable ideology, so intent upon drafting Jesus into their parade? Is it to gain some sort of legitimacy? To fool the uneducated? To con the "spiritual" who don't know Jesus Christ as their personal Lord and Savior, or those who have never deeply studied God's word, into thinking they're doing God's will?

Whatever the reason, it's poison to my faith and my government. It's poison to both because it divides and generates hate. It's poison because it obscures the message of salvation found in the Gospel by hiding the truth behind lables. It's poison because it drives those on the other side AWAY from the truth and AWAY from understanding. It's poison because it gives God's "official" stamp of approval to anything people want to do.

We may not have found the answer to the question contained in the original post, but this thread has certainly revealed what's WRONG with mixing Jesus and secular politics. The mis-information, the mis-understandings, the mis-application of terms and the general lack of both Biblical and Constitutional knowledge is appalling.
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Old 12-24-2010, 07:22 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Isn't the bigger question, how can you be a Christian and vote liberal?
No, and I find that offensive.
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Old 12-24-2010, 07:29 AM
 
Location: Martinsville, NJ
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I have met a lot of Christians who believe that God created the Government.

If that's actually true (and I have my doubts) then you hang out with some seriously uneducated and backward thinking people. I've met a good number of people in my life, and can't recall a SINGLE ONE, of any religion or affiliation, who believes that God created the government.
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Old 12-24-2010, 07:43 AM
 
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Rank-n-file Fundamentalist Christians and Republicans share a common, core constitution - unthinking obedience to authority.
Not the authority of the bible so much as their pick and choose enforcement policies. But you've missed another group. Prosperity preachers are a neocons best friend.
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Old 12-24-2010, 07:47 AM
 
Location: St. Joseph Area
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Jesus was anti-government? Where on earth did you get that idea?
Maybe there's a Libertarian Study Bible out there?
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Old 12-24-2010, 07:47 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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When it comes down to it, there is no party for Christians. I used to be a registered Democrat, but finally realized I could not be party to or support a party that pushed abortions.
Yet you have no problem making the baseless allegation the party pushes abortions?
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