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I am appalled that we live in a country where we cannot defend our personal values about being touched by strangers without being subjected to embarrassment and harassment.
And I am appalled you would be willing to put your fellow travelers at risk for their lives because you want to avoid "embarrassment."
I respect everyone's viewpoint when it comes to being patted down by the TSA, but I find it interesting how people who are outraged are focused on their personal right to fly, but seem uninterested in other people's rights. I've been patted down by the TSA, it wasn't pleasant, but I wanted to fly, and I appreciated that the other passengers on the flight also wanted to fly to their destination, without being blown up or diverted because someone questionable got on the flight. I agree with many of you that the TSA measures probably would not deter a determined terrorist, but I think that the TSA measures do serve all of us in that they remind us, each and every time that we get on a flight, that we should not be complacent, that we all should be alert, that prospective terrorists are out there. If only for the heightened awareness that these patdowns and scans evoke, they do serve as a deterrent.
Technicalities and details...now we know that SCOTUS will rule that traveling is not protected under the 4th amendment w/ respect to leisure, but if you're engaged in commerce for your corporation or personal business and have to travel, it might be the opening to crack the veil.
I always wondered why I was asked, "Business or Pleasure, sir"?
I agree with many of you that the TSA measures probably would not deter a determined terrorist.
But a point that several people miss is that the evolving security procedures... even those that appear to be defending against the last attack rather than the next one... have already saved lives. The underwear bomber (for example) did not fail just because his bomb didn't work, he failed because security procedures have forced terrorists to resort to tactics more likely to not work... like underwear bombs.
We have dodged a bullet or two, and will not be able to dodge all of them. But let's not forget that it's easier to dodge a zip gun than a rifle. The TSA procedures cannot make us perfectly safe. But they can make us more safe.
But a point that several people miss is that the evolving security procedures... even those that appear to be defending against the last attack rather than the next one... have already saved lives. The underwear bomber (for example) did not fail just because his bomb didn't work, he failed because security procedures have forced terrorists to resort to tactics more likely to not work... like underwear bombs.
We have dodged a bullet or two, and will not be able to dodge all of them. But let's not forget that it's easier to dodge a zip gun than a rifle. The TSA procedures cannot make us perfectly safe. But they can make us more safe.
This is my opinion, but I do not agree with this. I think that if a terrorist wanted to take out a plane that there are many ways to do it. We are a vulnerable society and killing large (large) numbers of people would be incredibly easy. All it takes is one "terrorist" to take out 2,000 people at a football game, and we would have pat downs and scanners at every sporting event. Where does it end? What about Disneyland? Concerts? Casinos? What about events that occur all over the country, every day of the week? We cannot live in fear and we cannot allow the government to take away our freedom in the name of "for our own safety and good".
The pat downs of random people are ridiculous and anyone who doesn't think so is a fool. People will go along with anything, ANYTHING, because they would rather not take the time to think about what it means and just believe they will be "safer". BS
I respect everyone's viewpoint when it comes to being patted down by the TSA, but I find it interesting how people who are outraged are focused on their personal right to fly, but seem uninterested in other people's rights. I've been patted down by the TSA, it wasn't pleasant, but I wanted to fly, and I appreciated that the other passengers on the flight also wanted to fly to their destination, without being blown up or diverted because someone questionable got on the flight. I agree with many of you that the TSA measures probably would not deter a determined terrorist, but I think that the TSA measures do serve all of us in that they remind us, each and every time that we get on a flight, that we should not be complacent, that we all should be alert, that prospective terrorists are out there. If only for the heightened awareness that these patdowns and scans evoke, they do serve as a deterrent.
Again, just how many terrorists have they actually stopped? They already had all of the nuisances, control games in place and no terrorist attacks to speak of. Which other countries put their citizens through this battery of torment before they board a plane?
This is my opinion, but I do not agree with this. I think that if a terrorist wanted to take out a plane that there are many ways to do it. We are a vulnerable society and killing large (large) numbers of people would be incredibly easy. All it takes is one "terrorist" to take out 2,000 people at a football game, and we would have pat downs and scanners at every sporting event. Where does it end? What about Disneyland? Concerts? Casinos? What about events that occur all over the country, every day of the week? We cannot live in fear and we cannot allow the government to take away our freedom in the name of "for our own safety and good".
20yrsinBranson
If the terrorists would bomb a mall, a concert, Disneyworld, Wall Street, the IRS, a Super Bowl. That would drive the TSA nazis crazy and paralyze the very capitalistic foundations of this country and serve to subjugate the people even more than now. The gov't would create a totally new bureaucracy of henchmen to "protect" us everywhere we go and tax the very air that we breathe to pay for it.
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