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Old 01-17-2011, 09:48 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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The American Heritage Dictionary classifies gringo as "offensive slang," "usually disparaging," and "often disparaging."
Gringo - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

That was difficult.
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Old 01-17-2011, 09:53 AM
 
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The word was used in an insensitive and ignorant way.
I am white it does not bother me. However, it probably would not have bothered me either if she had said it turns out he was a "beaner'. I am just not that politically correct so such things don't bother me.
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Old 01-17-2011, 09:56 AM
 
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I am white it does not bother me. However, it probably would not have bothered me either if she had said it turns out he was a "beaner'. I am just not that politically correct so such things don't bother me.

But even if she said, "Oh Thank God it was a white person and not hispanic" its still a ignorant comment about a sensitive matter.
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Old 01-17-2011, 09:56 AM
 
Location: Redondo Beach, CA
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Although many definitions of Gringo state that it is a derogatory term, as a Gringa who used to live in Mexico, I can provide anecdotal evidence that I never heard it used derogatorily. Obviously my personal experience doesn't make it universally true, but it may lend some degree of credence to the notion that it was not intended as a slur by the author.

That said, a professional writer should take better care to frame her argument in a way that cannot be perceived as derogatory to her readers, and on that front, Ms. Hernandez failed miserably.

Her response to learning that the shooter was not Hispanic/Latino, however, is human and natural. And she's probably right in speculating that the crux of the national debate would have been directed towards anger at the Latino community had the shooter been a Garcia or a Sanchez. But there were much, much better ways to have gotten her point across.

I empathize with her sentiments but I condemn her choice of language.
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Old 01-17-2011, 09:56 AM
 
Location: SouthCentral Texas
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so you read the entire entry and picked that definition....

then gringo must be offensive to you.

I think the reporter used a familiar term[to her] to qualify this person. Other than that..."gringo" is the least offensive of terms that a can be used to describe him.
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Old 01-17-2011, 09:57 AM
 
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If she's speaking English, the correct word is "caucasian." Notice that she didn't say she was "glad it was a gringo and not a *******." The sentiment is also offensive.

I hope NPR goes under. That would be a day to celebrate!

Oh for pete's sake, the bleeped out word is -- wet back. Don't kid yourself for a minute that she wasn't using "gringo" derogatorily. And I find it very interesting that CD chooses not to censor THAT word.
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Old 01-17-2011, 09:59 AM
 
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so you read the entire entry and picked that definition....

then gringo must be offensive to you.

I think the reporter used a familiar term[to her] to qualify this person. Other than that..."gringo" is the least offensive of terms that a can be used to describe him.
If she can't speak English, she probably shouldn't be contributing to an English language media.
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Old 01-17-2011, 10:00 AM
 
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But even if she said, "Oh Thank God it was a white person and not hispanic" its still a ignorant comment about a sensitive matter.
I think that is rational. She was worried about the affects that this would have had on the latin community and the anti-immigration campaign. I think that is a fair concern considering that she herself is hispanic. Seems to be much to do about nothing.
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Old 01-17-2011, 10:01 AM
 
Location: Redondo Beach, CA
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If she's speaking English, the correct word is "caucasian." Notice that she didn't say she was "glad it was a gringo and not a *******." The sentiment is also offensive.

I hope NPR goes under. That would be a day to celebrate!
Why do you want to silence speech you don't agree with? Would you say the same about Glenn Beck or Rush Limbaugh's shows?
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Oh for pete's sake, the bleeped out word is -- wet back. Don't kid yourself for a minute that she wasn't using "gringo" derogatorily. And I find it very interesting that CD chooses not to censor THAT word.
Those terms are not different but equal.
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Old 01-17-2011, 10:02 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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so you read the entire entry and picked that definition....

then gringo must be offensive to you.

I think the reporter used a familiar term[to her] to qualify this person. Other than that..."gringo" is the least offensive of terms that a can be used to describe him.
I think you are making excuses...and no I am not offended by ANY names,I don't care what others think of me.

unlike most Americans,I am not a delicate flower that would be destroyed by the use of a 'bad name' like the dreaded 'N' word....or the almost as equally dreaded 'F' word.


Hopefully none of the delicate flowers reading this have been permanently scarred by the above.
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