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Old 01-18-2011, 12:14 PM
 
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But then its the taxpayer who is taking on the high risk. That isn't fair. The taxpayer should also get a piece of the profitable low-risk market.
Didn't mom ever tell you 2 wrongs don't make a right?

 
Old 01-18-2011, 12:15 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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You mean like "death panels"
You mean the one the dems were surreptitiously trying to insert in the language of the bill, telling everybody to hush hush about it and then finally took it out again, just a few weeks ago - that death panel?

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Thats the thing I had a whole wth moment over, you know?
Well, this was an ill-conceived, rushed to get it passed bill. If they can't afford it now, I don't know they would be able to even with subsidies.

And then we will get into arbitrary cost caps, dictated by the government.
 
Old 01-18-2011, 12:18 PM
 
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You mean the one the dems were surreptitiously trying to insert in the language of the bill, telling everybody to hush hush about it and then finally took it out again, just a few weeks ago - that death panel?
Nonsense. It was a straight forward lie
 
Old 01-18-2011, 12:21 PM
 
Location: Silver Springs, FL
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Well, this was an ill-conceived, rushed to get it passed bill. If they can't afford it now, I don't know they would be able to even with subsidies.

And then we will get into arbitrary cost caps, dictated by the government.
You're not gonna get any debate out of me on that point, I totally agree with you that its just an unworkable plan, and a huge waste of time, not to mention paper.
However, I do think something needs to happen, but I'll be damned if I know what that should be.
 
Old 01-18-2011, 12:26 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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You're not gonna get any debate out of me on that point, I totally agree with you that its just an unworkable plan, and a huge waste of time, not to mention paper.
However, I do think something needs to happen, but I'll be damned if I know what that should be.
Well, for the 255 million Americans with HC, it is the cost they are unhappy about and obamacare will exacerbate that issue.

The GOP will come with their replacement ideas that does not center around a behemoth government control.

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Nonsense. It was a straight forward lie
Don't think so.

http://thehill.com/blogs/healthwatch...-debate?page=3

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“Thus far, it seems that no press or blogs have discovered it, but we will be keeping a close watch and may be calling on you if we need a rapid, targeted response,” the memo read. “The longer this goes unnoticed, the better our chances of keeping it.”
Incentivizing doctors with cash for end of life counseling is a bad idea.
 
Old 01-18-2011, 01:08 PM
 
Location: Maui County, HI
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And thirdly, the republicans have already stated, numerous of times, that their plan would include coverage for "pre-existing conditions".
Oh really? And Republicans have changed their mind since the 90s about the MANDATE. So I can go without insurance and just sign up for it when I need to, and my preexisting conditions will be covered?
 
Old 01-18-2011, 01:22 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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How many times have we seen the Obama administration use fear mongering to forward their agenda?
Typical tactic with the Progressives.
Need i say more, THANK YOU!
 
Old 01-18-2011, 01:23 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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They will never understand facts. Might as well forget it.

On one hand they say a few million is nothing and then pull out this one.

Liberal hypocrisy is shining.
Might as well forget it, your right. Too much something in them their cool-ade.
 
Old 01-18-2011, 01:30 PM
 
Location: SARASOTA, FLORIDA
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Might as well forget it, your right. Too much something in them their cool-ade.
Most of them get their kool-aid for free off the rest of us so we cannot count their thoughts.

We have to give them a break because most of them have never EARNED or PAID for their own healthcare so they would not understand.
 
Old 01-18-2011, 01:31 PM
 
Location: Marion, IA
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Oh boy here come the lies, cliches, and emotional appeals from the Democrats. So predictable.
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