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Old 02-16-2011, 02:09 PM
 
Location: South Fla
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Except when it's he death penalty, right? Then it's...what?
Yes it is.

I do agree with you about that. I also find it hypocritical for those that claim to be against abortion to be pro death penalty.

Either you respect life and that means all life or you dont in my eyes.

But that can be flipped for those that are for abortion and against the death penalty
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Old 02-16-2011, 02:10 PM
 
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It can whatever to 'them', just as long as 'they' don't try and tell me it must be the same to me.
Arent you doing just that? Telling them that they must accept abortions
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Old 02-16-2011, 02:11 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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How is it not murder? In order to perform an abortion correctly, the brain stem must be severed, or limbs torn apart, or brain matter vacuumed out of the base of the skull, or acid burning; all without anesthesia. Abortion is a barbaric, horrific practice all in the name of "choice." Explain to me why this is acceptable to you?

Edit: Ironic that you quoted Lenin, when he was an advocate of abortion, euthanasia and eugenics; a hero of the radical left.
Oh, so you think that they still do that procedure on a regular basis.

When the actual abortion procedure does no such thing.

Gotcha.
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Old 02-16-2011, 02:12 PM
 
Location: South Fla
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How is it not taking responsibility? There is a choice, the woman makes it and takes control of her own life.

You just want everyone to be abstinent? Get ready for a lot more violence
Taking responsibility would be raising the child. Killing the child is taking the easy way out.

No I want people to be responsible. If you arent ready or capable or taking care of a child then maybe you should wait to have sex. There is other sexual things you can do that wont produce a baby.
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Old 02-16-2011, 02:14 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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Taking responsibility would be raising the child. Killing the child is taking the easy way out.

No I want people to be responsible. If you arent ready or capable or taking care of a child then maybe you should wait to have sex. There is other sexual things you can do that wont produce a baby.
None quite as fun as the real act, however.

In any case, childbirth shouldn't be a punishment. In my mind, there are 3 ways to "take responsibility", all just as acceptable.

1: Keeping the child
2: Adoption the child
3: Aborting the child.

Abortion is not an event that's lightly done. So it's not like you'll be skipping through the daisies afterwards. So I can easily see it as "taking responsibility".
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Old 02-16-2011, 02:16 PM
 
Location: Up in the air
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Taking responsibility would be raising the child. Killing the child is taking the easy way out.

No I want people to be responsible. If you arent ready or capable or taking care of a child then maybe you should wait to have sex. There is other sexual things you can do that wont produce a baby.
It's not 'killing a child', that argument is ridiculous and overly emotional....not to mention wrong. As for it being the easy way out, you want women who don't want children to suffer for the rest of their lives?? Because honestly, if I were to have a child at this point in my life, my life would be completely ruined and I'm not afraid to admit it.

In that abstinent context, you're also telling married couples not to have sex, childfree couples not to have sex and pretty much anyone else who isn't actively trying for a kid. Sorry, but that's just not going to happen. I'm assuming you've NEVER had sex unless you were trying for a child?
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Old 02-16-2011, 02:18 PM
 
Location: South Fla
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None quite as fun as the real act, however.

In any case, childbirth shouldn't be a punishment. In my mind, there are 3 ways to "take responsibility", all just as acceptable.

1: Keeping the child
2: Adoption the child
3: Aborting the child.

Abortion is not an event that's lightly done. So it's not like you'll be skipping through the daisies afterwards. So I can easily see it as "taking responsibility".
Then someone needs to have self control

Since when is bringing life into this world a punishment? Bet u are glad your parents didnt feel that way

I actually know someone that has had 5 abortions. To her I would say it is lightly done.
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Old 02-16-2011, 02:20 PM
 
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It's not 'killing a child', that argument is ridiculous and overly emotional....not to mention wrong. As for it being the easy way out, you want women who don't want children to suffer for the rest of their lives?? Because honestly, if I were to have a child at this point in my life, my life would be completely ruined and I'm not afraid to admit it.

In that abstinent context, you're also telling married couples not to have sex, childfree couples not to have sex and pretty much anyone else who isn't actively trying for a kid. Sorry, but that's just not going to happen. I'm assuming you've NEVER had sex unless you were trying for a child?
Get your tubes tied or something if you want to have sex but don't want kids. It's not the tax payer's problem, it's their OWN problem to deal with. When you make a choice there are consequences for that choice, you own the responsibility of accepting the outcomes. That's all the abortion argument is mainly about, using tax money.
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Old 02-16-2011, 02:21 PM
 
Location: South Fla
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It's not 'killing a child', that argument is ridiculous and overly emotional....not to mention wrong. As for it being the easy way out, you want women who don't want children to suffer for the rest of their lives?? Because honestly, if I were to have a child at this point in my life, my life would be completely ruined and I'm not afraid to admit it.

In that abstinent context, you're also telling married couples not to have sex, childfree couples not to have sex and pretty much anyone else who isn't actively trying for a kid. Sorry, but that's just not going to happen. I'm assuming you've NEVER had sex unless you were trying for a child?
Maybe to you its not killing a child. To many it is and it is emotional to many and you dont really get to take that from people.

Suffer for the rest of their lives? That isnt emotional though is it? Wonder if your parents feel like they are suffering all their life?

Who is saying anything about married couples not having sex? Married couples should be more prepared and stable to have a child
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Old 02-16-2011, 02:23 PM
 
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Getting an abortion is not taking responsibility
You guys tout that "responsibility" thing way too much. Practice what you preach.
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